Youve been targeting me all day lmao you have your mind made up go ahead and hammer me let whiteflame win again, he deserves another scum win, we played like absolute shit
Youve been targeting me all day lmao you have your mind made up go ahead and hammer me let whiteflame win again, he deserves another scum win, we played like absolute shit
Ask Savant if your BP was used
Way ahead of you, just asked him.
I don't like that you've changed your story about what Savant said or that your supposed misunderstanding of how your role worked conveniently let Thoth get framed, but eh. My brain be tired and I've got another day to think about this.
Just fucking lynch me then, I really don't care. Kind of starting to piss me off now.
All right, big miscommunication there. I actually thought Bulletproof always had to be activated, like a Commuter. It didn't occur to me that it was just like an extra life. Guess I'm still green. In that case, there could have only been one death NP2 because Thoth shot Mago, but scum tried to kill you and failed. So you're saying it never occurred to you to say that in his defense because you were still under this misconception that Savant had told you your BP had to be activated first?
Yeah I was probably targeted for the night kill now that I think about it lol. I wasn't told my bulletproof was used though, so maybe not, but its starting to make sense now
We still have til 7pm tomorrow.
If in mafia "passive" just means it's not a power you actively use on others, then what could a non-passive Bulletproof possibly be?
There generally aren't non passive BP's, except for that game I guess whiteflame mentioned, I don't think I've seen it or if I have I don't remember it
This used to be one of my top vibe songs just for chilling at my PC
Nice loll it was either that or "everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days!" by miley cyrus lmao
Alright, I’m confused, what did I miss? Can someone explain what I’m clarifying? What’s normal phrasing for a passive role?
In your expert opinion, are bulletproofs usually passive or do you have to tell the mod to activate it?
If you meant passive as in it passively protects you for one night phase, that makes a lot more sense.
Now your getting it.
But then I'm confused how you could have thought Savant was telling you it wasn't passive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk
Honestly I was tripped up when he first said I had to activate it, never seen it work that way.
Okay, maybe a miscommunication about what a passive is then. I understand it to be an ability that doesn't need to be activated and is always in effect.
That would be correct. Though "always" is changed by the 1x modifier
There was a 1x Bulletproof in Microbiology mafia, which you also played in, and you even put a 1x Bulletproof in Atypical mafia, which you moderated.
Yes, all of these were passive.
A passive Bulletproof would be ridiculously OP, similar to a passive town Commuter, and the only thing that was making me believe your JOAT was that all your roles were, at least, 1x shots. Now you're expecting me to believe Savant put an unkillable townie in the setup.
It's a 1x bulletproof, im not permanently unkillable lmao. And you cant actually protect a kill because you die in their place. It makes perfect balance sense in my head, which is why I didn't sus your bg claim.
My pfp is an accurate representation of my current attitude
That doesn't effect the argument however that "bulletproof is generally passive" in fact savant changing it to passive supports that notion even more.
Bro im retarded. It is passive. I double checked my PM and he initially said i had to lock in in then changed it later to say nvm its passive lmao
Pie was a 1x Bulletproof in Madoka Magic mafia.
So to be clear, it was not phrased as 1x Bulletproof in your role PM?
It is phrased as a 1x.
I'm just struggling to understand why you would think something listed as 1x was passive
Why would the x shot make it not passive? Like whiteflame has incentive to lynch me here and even he would back me up that this is normal phrasing even for a passive role.
And if it was listed as 1x, why Savant would then tell you it was a passive, contrary to his own original role PM
The disconnect here is that you are assuming that 1x somehow means you have to actively use it, which has NEVER been the case.
Nah I'm still unclear. I would expect your role PM to read like this:
You are Luthen Rael. A spymaster and early architect of the Rebellion, you have a wide array of skills that make you an asset to your cause. Therefore, you are the JOAT, and you have the following abilities: 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof.
If it was worded that way, I don't see how you could think your Bulletproof was passive.
That was basically my PM almost verbatim lmao.
And bulletproof is ALWAYS passive. I am making that assumption based on every bullet proof I have ever seen in existence. If it was phrased as a 1x self doctor or something I would assume it wasn't passive.
Or you're having a stroke while talking to an alien. Fun!
idk did I answer your question lol
Either my brain isn't braining or I am talking to an alien right now.
The first one
I’m honestly so confused
Yo can you explain what your PM said to make you think your BP was passive
Nothing in my PM. It is usually a passive role. I asked savant and he initially said it was passive then he changed it and said it wasn't
Waive the NK, wait for Thoth to kill someone, claim you roleblocked that person, now there's an explanation for why you can't verify your roleblocker and you frame Thoth
If I needed an explanation for why I didn't roleblock someone you'd think I would come up with a better 1x role to lie about then roleblocker lmao like how would that help my case?
As to the second, to farm towncred for being initially reasonable before pressing the mislynch
Or... Hear me out... I am actually town and was being open minded.
Lunatic though seems likelier to have framed Thoth so he had a pretense for why his Roleblocker was never verified
Whys that? Also why would I immediately call attention to the possibility of thoth being framed at the start of dp3 if I was the culprit?
Apologies, pretty clear I misread your point. Long and short of it is that I can see value in trying to hold off on a decision for both sides, whether that’s waffling or just uncertainty.
I’m hopping on the road for the next few hours, so while I hope I’ll be around for the final vote, I’m not expecting to be.
Cool Cool, well regardless of what happens, you've been a worthy opponent, as always. Wish we were town together this time, but as luck would have it, we aren't.
At the same time, I have to wonder why scum!whiteflame would NK Banana over me last night phase. She apparently townread him enough to use her Petitioner on him DP3, while I was openly sussing him.
Could be he just thought I was a worse decision-maker. He got me to mislynch at LYLO in Chicago Bears mafia.
Honestly think its the latter, but not that your a bad decision maker, more like he thought he could suck up to you. He had role confirmed you so maybe he thought that would buy you some town cred with him. He kind of effectively was working me over the same way the whole game by town reading my claim, considering I know nothing about the theme, i've just been taking his word for it that I have a solid character here.
I thought you were talking about how I wasn’t waffling. If I’m wrong, my mistake.
I think it was a miscommunication. I thought you were accusing me of waffling, so I was defending that I wasn't waffling because it happened so fast.
Like I said, it would be great if he’s active too, I just haven’t seen any signs of life. And again, I don’t know why you think I’m rushing this. Never said anyone should make a decision quickly, so I don’t know why you keep characterizing what I’m saying that way. Literally never been my aim.
Ok
I said you were waffling, not that I was
Who said otherwise wtf?
As for farming towncred, being the hammer didn’t and shouldn’t have given me a lot. Kohai was widely scumread at that point.
The humble aspect here just makes it seem even more like town cred farming tbh but at this point I know you are scum so it’s just obvious to me now where it wasn’t before.
Neither can you. His being pinged so much doesn’t prove he’s around, either, though I hope he is.
Has mago ever given the indication that he wasn’t active and aware of what’s happening? Because the couple games I’ve seen him in he’s been pretty alert and attentive. Also he talked a considerable deal about his role and using it correctly. Anyways I’m cool with either of them making the decision and will understand if it’s me, but for gods sake let them take their time and breathe lol
People hear 'lynch' and think of a white mob surrounding a black man hanging from a tree.
I literally never thought that once. This is a case of white people trying to be offended for other people. Classic liberalism
It’s more WIFOM at this point. Waffling on the lynch doesn’t exactly look better when the time for every DP is shared, and avoiding the lynch in an effort to hopefully spare him is something I could see you doing. I could also see you bussing at that point, so I can’t say it’s obvious to me either way.
Is it really waffling when you hammered like minutes after he claimed? I was willing to talk it out with him and consider possibilities but you just kind of shut that shit down. Potentially maybe you thought me divulging further information would make me look town and therefor you bussed him before that could happen, or you just wanted to simply farm town cred. Either way there is no realm of reality you can call that “waffling” when you ended the day phase so fast.
I hope so, just don’t have any information to tell me that’s the case. If he’s taking his time and analyzing the game, yes, I agree he’s made the right call.
I just get the vibe you are trying to manipulate wryly into a hasty decision when there is 0 evidence to suggest someone as active and attentive as magorath (whose also been receiving multiple pings) just would randomly decide to not pay attention in the most crucial phase of the game when he has been among our most active players recently.
There’s no way mago isn’t here and keeping track of things. I think he is just being patient, and honestly good on him.