I still think the NP0 cop claim thing is useless. I don’t care what sites do it frequently.
VTL: Helz
VTL Helz
I am blackmailed.
I wanted to catch up but that's fair ig.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/8/2026 at 3:59 PM (post #406)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/8/2026 at 2:56 PM (post #405)
Getting a bit off topic but most people do not understand how game breaking things like sociometrics can be. I initially created the concept of quantifying word counts across multiple games to compare correlated alignment patterns although I did it manually and while it was scary effective it was also a massive pain. AI could do that trash super fast and easy. Some of the later concepts I came up with were so game breaking I never even released an article on the subject.
If I had the right AI tools I think I could utterly destroy the game of Mafia in ways that would just be awful.
Lmao it's funny you say that because I had AI generate me a web scraper a while back to download all the Mafia games on DebateArt in hopes I could toss them into a forensic text analysis program and forever have an advantage over everyone else on this site. I never did, but I wish I had used it now just because we wouldn't have lost all those games on DebateArt.
why was I pinged for this? Something about the archives?
Such a nice day outside I took a walk around the town, then drove to another town to go check places out over there. I’ll be home in 40 minutes.
lets get Helz's claim at minimum
I really want to lynch but a very good claim would get me to back off
as far as the budget goes, I'm willing to let this dp last until 3 ish tmrw... we're cutting into our dp4 time but i think we can get a bit more out of this dp before voting. I don't like a shining policy atm
done. I may or may not have been playing Among Us while isoing
VTL Helz
Solid scum. At minimum, I want a claim here. A few things:
Lunatic is my second sus. I liked what looks kind of like a genuine derp, but I swear I'm picking up the same tone he'd had as mafia in the past couple games. I find the latter much more indicative than the former. It's a much lighter sus than what I have on Helz. Slight scum.
Thoth talking about his complaints on mafia game theory feels towny. Slight town, very weak.
Magoroth says he doesn't think his role could be figured out through his claim. I don't care for the fact that he said that, or that he gave his character so freely, but it does match. He's not following his scum meta as far as activity goes. His vote "idk why but I sus this" I think is in "too scummy to be scum" territory, which could maybe be said for his behavior in general. I can see a world where Magoroth is scum but for now I'm leaning town on him.
Whiteflame and Kohai are both tossup for me.
Noah keeps noob town-telling, so I'm gonna stick with him being solid town.
Shining's here, that's nice but null atm
here and isoing ppl
I have a sus on Helz that I have not ISO’d to confirm yet. I’ll get it in the morning.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 10:19 PM (post #165)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 8:15 PM (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.
I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.
I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
You realize pie isn’t in the game right?
I forgot he helped Savant smh
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.
I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.
I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/6/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #158)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 9:16 PM (post #153)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 4:35 PM (post #114)
Standard D1 strategy of insulating potential alignment cops N0 peek.
Essentially if every player posts a peek then if an alignment cop is killed we do not have to guess who they checked. If I am the alignment cop I am then insulated while town is given direct claims post flip. If I am not then any other alignment cop would be protected and able to out claims without fear.
Interesting strategy, I will say n0 roles are fairly uncommon here, (I have seen it 3-4 times probably though).
My n0 peek is whiteflame.
Somehow missed this reading back through the early DP. Also, fair pick Luna.
If I had to pick, Mag1c would have been my n0 pick.
i dont get the idea behind this
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 8:52 PM (post #135)
So do you have suspicion that Lunatic is a scum?
No, not at the moment. The townread I have is very weak and can change.
Advice:
As town, it's good to avoid character claiming for no reason. Characters are always tied to a role through a justification. Oftentimes if mafia does enough research on your character, they can figure your role out.
Now that I mention that, I don't like Magoroth claiming character so early, even if asked, or Helz asking for it. Hm.
idk a thing about Noah. I want to townread the instaclaim but I'm wary of coaching... he'd need a partner to be online so early, so I think it's less likely.
I will announce when MYLO/LYLO has arrived, and votes will be permanent on MYLO/LYLO days. So no hammer baiting.
^^^
Unique Mechanics
The town has seven days to eliminate the mafia. Day phases can be as long as you want, but the game will default to a mafia victory at this time in seven days (Tuesday, October 13, 2:00PM Eastern) unless the mafia have been eliminated before then. To go to the next day phase, you must lynch a player. You cannot vote to end the day phase without killing a player, the day phase just continues until someone is lynched.
Budget two days for each DP? With one day for DP4 if needed.
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 1:53 PM (post #6)
I'm David Copperfield, ig I vanished the statue of liberty and my property taxes
bruh lol
/in
I don’t care about the setup- this game very clearly came down to better plays. Pie + Lunatic is definitely one of the harder teams to beat.
I don’t dislike you.
To be honest.
You aren’t one of our best, but you’re not horrible and you show up every game to play against monsters and I respect that.
Apparently you’re better on MU as well, so there’s a style aspect in there.
I don’t think your politics make for a good moderator- although it’s better than it was. I’m skeptical of all moderators on the left because I’m extremely libertarian when it comes to speech.
As a developer you are excellent. You have nice ideas that you try and code when no one else will, and you listen to feedback to always keep improving the site.
As a whole I feel positive about you.
I consider you a friend. Not one of my closest ones on this site, but one nonetheless.
That is my opinion of you.
Magic called out the theme split AND Athena's cop role DP2. If he didn't waive he would have lived to DP3.
I was reading my theory of Lunatic/Kohai or less likely, Vader/Pie.
I didn't think scum Pie would kill me, and was going to claim a visit that, hopefully, scum Pie would claim to have seen. That was the point of the waive. It was risky.