Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/8/2026 at 3:59 PM (post #406)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/8/2026 at 2:56 PM (post #405)
Getting a bit off topic but most people do not understand how game breaking things like sociometrics can be. I initially created the concept of quantifying word counts across multiple games to compare correlated alignment patterns although I did it manually and while it was scary effective it was also a massive pain. AI could do that trash super fast and easy. Some of the later concepts I came up with were so game breaking I never even released an article on the subject.
If I had the right AI tools I think I could utterly destroy the game of Mafia in ways that would just be awful.
Lmao it's funny you say that because I had AI generate me a web scraper a while back to download all the Mafia games on DebateArt in hopes I could toss them into a forensic text analysis program and forever have an advantage over everyone else on this site. I never did, but I wish I had used it now just because we wouldn't have lost all those games on DebateArt.

why was I pinged for this? Something about the archives?

Mag1cman

Such a nice day outside I took a walk around the town, then drove to another town to go check places out over there. I’ll be home in 40 minutes.

Mag1cman

as far as the budget goes, I'm willing to let this dp last until 3 ish tmrw... we're cutting into our dp4 time but i think we can get a bit more out of this dp before voting. I don't like a shining policy atm

Mag1cman

done. I may or may not have been playing Among Us while isoing


VTL Helz


Solid scum. At minimum, I want a claim here. A few things:


  1. He's made multiple posts talking about/apologizing for not being his usual self... honestly feels more like an excuse for any meta read someone might have on him.
  2. The N0 cop idea, especially his stated reason, doesn't make sense. Let's say the cop does answer the question and tells us all who they would've checked N0... that is not a confirmation of who the cop would target NP1, as there is a whole NP for circumstances to change. I think it's more likely to be a tool for scum to plan around than an actual cop crumb opportunity. If someone susses who they said they would check throughout the DP, mafia can plan around that. It's limited, but it can help mafia scout for any cop check coming their way, more than it helps town decipher who a dead cop visited. And even if town is able to figure that out, it doesn't tell us the result, because the cop would be dead. Even if not part of a scum plan to scout for anything, it still feels like a fake contribution off its uselssness.
  3. Asking Magoroth for his character is genuinely so weird.


Lunatic is my second sus. I liked what looks kind of like a genuine derp, but I swear I'm picking up the same tone he'd had as mafia in the past couple games. I find the latter much more indicative than the former. It's a much lighter sus than what I have on Helz. Slight scum.


Thoth talking about his complaints on mafia game theory feels towny. Slight town, very weak.


Magoroth says he doesn't think his role could be figured out through his claim. I don't care for the fact that he said that, or that he gave his character so freely, but it does match. He's not following his scum meta as far as activity goes. His vote "idk why but I sus this" I think is in "too scummy to be scum" territory, which could maybe be said for his behavior in general. I can see a world where Magoroth is scum but for now I'm leaning town on him.


Whiteflame and Kohai are both tossup for me.


Noah keeps noob town-telling, so I'm gonna stick with him being solid town.


Shining's here, that's nice but null atm

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 10:19 PM (post #165)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 8:15 PM (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.

I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.

I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
You realize pie isn’t in the game right?

I forgot he helped Savant smh

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.

I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.

I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.

NP0*

Mag1cman

I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.


I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.


I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/6/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #158)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 9:16 PM (post #153)

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 4:35 PM (post #114)
Standard D1 strategy of insulating potential alignment cops N0 peek.

Essentially if every player posts a peek then if an alignment cop is killed we do not have to guess who they checked. If I am the alignment cop I am then insulated while town is given direct claims post flip. If I am not then any other alignment cop would be protected and able to out claims without fear.
Interesting strategy, I will say n0 roles are fairly uncommon here, (I have seen it 3-4 times probably though).

My n0 peek is whiteflame.

Somehow missed this reading back through the early DP. Also, fair pick Luna.

If I had to pick, Mag1c would have been my n0 pick.

i dont get the idea behind this

Mag1cman

Advice:


As town, it's good to avoid character claiming for no reason. Characters are always tied to a role through a justification. Oftentimes if mafia does enough research on your character, they can figure your role out.


Now that I mention that, I don't like Magoroth claiming character so early, even if asked, or Helz asking for it. Hm.

Mag1cman

idk a thing about Noah. I want to townread the instaclaim but I'm wary of coaching... he'd need a partner to be online so early, so I think it's less likely.

Mag1cman

Not certain on Magoroth, but I'm tempted to townread #38 and #39. But I don't know if he's jumping in and trying to find things that are off, or tried for something and immediately backed out of it.


I think the former seems more likely; mafia would plan out their pushes/pressures/shades better, no?

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 1:43 PM (post #2)
How does the night phase works? What prevents the mafia from stalling out the night phase to use up some of our seven days?

fakable but creative... I buy the derp for now. Weak but looks good early.

Mag1cman
I will announce when MYLO/LYLO has arrived, and votes will be permanent on MYLO/LYLO days. So no hammer baiting.

^^^


Unique Mechanics
The town has seven days to eliminate the mafia. Day phases can be as long as you want, but the game will default to a mafia victory at this time in seven days (Tuesday, October 13, 2:00PM Eastern) unless the mafia have been eliminated before then. To go to the next day phase, you must lynch a player. You cannot vote to end the day phase without killing a player, the day phase just continues until someone is lynched.

Budget two days for each DP? With one day for DP4 if needed.

Mag1cman

I don’t care about the setup- this game very clearly came down to better plays. Pie + Lunatic is definitely one of the harder teams to beat.

Mag1cman

I don’t dislike you.


To be honest.


You aren’t one of our best, but you’re not horrible and you show up every game to play against monsters and I respect that.


Apparently you’re better on MU as well, so there’s a style aspect in there.


I don’t think your politics make for a good moderator- although it’s better than it was. I’m skeptical of all moderators on the left because I’m extremely libertarian when it comes to speech.


As a developer you are excellent. You have nice ideas that you try and code when no one else will, and you listen to feedback to always keep improving the site.


As a whole I feel positive about you.


I consider you a friend. Not one of my closest ones on this site, but one nonetheless.


That is my opinion of you.

Mag1cman
Magic called out the theme split AND Athena's cop role DP2. If he didn't waive he would have lived to DP3.

I was reading my theory of Lunatic/Kohai or less likely, Vader/Pie.


I didn't think scum Pie would kill me, and was going to claim a visit that, hopefully, scum Pie would claim to have seen. That was the point of the waive. It was risky.