SatanLucy

All Heil the great lord Meowbah! In the name of Meowbah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful: All Praise is due to Meowbah, Lord of the Universe The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Owner of the Day of Purr-ification. You alone do we worship, and You alone we turn to for help Guide us to the straight path; The path of those on whom You have bestowed your grace, not the path of those who have earned Your anger, nor of those who went astray. Ameow!

SatanLucy
Well, you should live to be 95 years old.


Ever since I started high sugar fruit diet, I started becoming younger instead of older.

SatanLucy
you really believe in a magical being who lives in the sky?


Yes.


he's going to keep track of how good you are and put you in "heaven" after you die?


Yes.


Are you an idiot?


I hope so.



People believe in this garbage and keep foisting it on humanity for their own selfish reasons.


I am not selfish, I am religious.



There are no upsides to god-belief and never will be


It feels nice to have magic sky daddy care for you.


SatanLucy
Is that why you act like a 4 year old according to your profile?


No, its because I am trans age. My mental age is 13 tho, I just act like a 4 year old. My brain is not that of a 4 year old, just the behavior is.

SatanLucy
Though by your logical standards, if it is possible to observe a banana then a pink fluffykins must also exist. Or neither exists.


If things exist, then there is also a thing which determines what exists and what doesnt. Such thing is God - Ruler of existence.


If there is no thing which determines what exists and what doesnt, then either everything exists or nothing does.


But truly, one cannot prove the "observed = exists" claim.

SatanLucy

Completeness theorem when applied to arguments talks specifically of these things:

  1. First-order logic (Such as "A = A" and "A = / = Not A", and False: A = Not A)
  2. Definitions
  3. Deduction logic
  4. Necessary true (A = B)
  5. Logically limited options (A or Not A)
  6. Necessary false (A = / = B)
  7. true and false being mutually exclusive (A and Not A cannot both be true and cannot both be false)


First-order logic must be accepted to be able to do reasoning. Some definitions likewise must be accepted or it is not possible to do any reasoning. Deduction logic is the result of first order logic and definitions. "Necessary true" is what must be true by deduction logic and first order logic and definitions. Logically limited options (A or Not A) means other options arent logically possible because there is no 3rd option with A or Not A. "Necessary false" is what must be false because it violates deduction logic and first order logic and definitions. true and false being mutually exclusive is result of first order logic where it is not possible to conclude differently without stating "A = Not A".


Now, how does observation evidence fail by completeness theorem?


Because observation evidence makes a claim which it cannot prove by deductive logic.


Observed = Exists


Observed = true


Something is observed = true


One way in which observation evidence attempted to prove itself is by defining "Exists" as "observed" and defining "true" as "observed", or in a better case, adding "observed" as one of definitions of "true" and "exists".


So in this case, observed would be by definition something which exists.


Obvious problem, however, is that such solution attempts to define something as existing. If such solution were accepted as valid, then I could likewise say "God is defined as supernatural being which exists", or "definition of "Exists" includes "God"".


So logical proof for observation evidence is about as strong as evidence for God. In other words, either God and observations exist, or neither exist.


So person who believes in what they can observe would also logically have to believe in God, because it is not possible to define one as existing and the other not, without creating arbitrary difference which fails by lack of justification.

SatanLucy
Are you admitting your debates are not intelligent enough for A.I. to understand?


When someone has 360 IQ, of course someone with mere 140 IQ cant understand IQ above 140. Its a curse of very smart people. the smarter you are, the lower is the number of people who can understand you. When an adult talks about high level math with a 4 year old, the 4 year old remains clueless and cant understand. And when compared to my intelligence, everyone else is a 4 year old.

SatanLucy
Since you take such pride in being a weirdo, I would think you would take it as a compliment.


I dont take pride in being a weirdo. I dont even consider myself weird.

SatanLucy
Law required the adulterous man and woman to be stoned. They only brought the woman


So Jesus wanted to stone 2 people instead of 1?


I see no proof for that but damn... you guys are really trying to make Jesus look horrible. So I must still reject the Bible because I refuse to believe Jesus is so evil.

SatanLucy

I believe Jesus Christ is God, but not as described in the Bible.


Lets see.


God in Old testament says: "Any woman who commits adultery is to be put to death". (No exception mentioned)


So Jesus comes, and he sees a bunch of men trying to stone a woman for adultery.


Jesus says: "Leave the woman alone, you misogynistic fuckers!!!"


So if Jesus is same God from Old testament, then only two options are possible:

  1. He somehow forgot to mention exceptions in Old testament
  2. He changed his mind


Now, 2 gets a common objection from the verse "God doesnt change his mind". But God can change his mind about that verse too, so that verse is invalid.


1 would basically mean God in Old testament gave people an incomplete law which led them to killing women which they actually werent supposed to kill.



But what is a far more likely explanation is that Jesus is not God from Old testament. If we accept that people misinterpreted religion for 4000 years before Jesus came, there is not much hope that they wouldnt misinterpret it for 2000 years after Jesus.


So Jesus was God who came to Earth to CHANGE religion, but writers of New testament confused him for God of the Old testament.


this is why they made up a story about God being killed on cross, which makes no sense because God cant be killed unless he wants to die anyway and basically just self-destructs.


But I dont know why would Christians want to believe in the story that Jesus committed suicide, or at least tried to but he cant die anyway because he is God.


So they made up a story how Jesus "sacrificed himself" for them. But what exactly did Jesus sacrifice? He didnt die. He didn't lose anything except maybe a weekend which he could have spent elsewhere.


So Jesus was God, but Bible is clearly false. No person above 150 IQ can seriously believe the nonsense Bible teaches.


Also, Bible is literally polytheist because it teaches that there are 3 Gods, or that 1 God has 3 minds which is same as saying there are 3 Gods.

SatanLucy
The hole is filled by God


Each time I pray to God, I can feel my hole being filled. But I do masturbate and pray at the same time, not sure if other people do that.

SatanLucy
Best Korea was a weirdo who played every side of the fence


Its not nice to call other people weirdos.



How is it possible that you don't know that is "Best Korea"?


All things are possible. Average person considers himself law obeying citizen, but also average person breaks law 3 times a day. We live in a silly world of fun and pretend.




SatanLucy

If people want to do them, who cares. I personally never cared for any win/lose system in a debate because each is flawed and pointless, but I can understand how some people like seeing those numbers go up just as I like when my tik tok grows by 100 in followers.

SatanLucy

Each person has a hole.


In modern times, their holes got bigger. People are taking more and more from Earth to fill the void inside them.


People will take more and more from Earth, until Earth says "I have no more to give".


People, instead of being more humble, are becoming more greedy.


Each product takes resources which are taken from mother Earth.


Human is truly the greediest of animals.


Human chooses to destroy the land that gave him birth.

SatanLucy
Regardless, I stopped using the site back towards the end of 2016, well after I turned atheist, so nice try.


I know that you have a habit of lying, but still, that does not make me feel better.

SatanLucy
Anyways, your views are very libertarian with bodily automony, so I guess you would have to take a strong stance on legalizing all drugs including hard ones like heroin to be consistent


Yes.


My implied point is that transgender surgeries could be considered dishonest medicine. Might need to call it a snake oil or vice industry and keep it as a separate entity from real medicine.


Sure, you can call it that, but cant prevent people from taking it.

SatanLucy
I don’t remember the person’s screen name. The resolution for the debate was “No one deserves to go to hell”, the instigator was trying to debate a theist by having the theist justify how anyone could be sent there. He started by listing all of the reasons no person could ever live an evil enough life to warrant eternal torture. The challenger came on and started off by accepting every argument the theist made, almost as if he was conceding the debate, then turned every argument against him by pointing out how the one who’s responsible for everything would then deserve the punishment he created, and that person is God himself.


I am almost 99% certain I made that argument when I was there in 2019 or 2018. So again, I am sorry for turning you into atheist. I was a deluded atheist back then, and I dragged other people in that delusion too. I was destroying every Christian debater on debate.org back then, basically trapped them with "How do you logically decide what to believe in when there is equal proof for Santa, Christian God, Allah...ect. ?".


It wasnt that atheism was correct. But they were just terrible debaters so atheism looked correct. Again, I am so sorry for turning you into atheist if it was me who said that. I was on a lot of pills back then and atheism seemed fun to argue for.

SatanLucy
Why are you sitting around imagining old people licking you would be my first question


I imagine a lot of things. Its just something person does when he has too much free time. In this case, I imagined old people licking me, I realized it was horrible, and I decided that I hate old people.

SatanLucy



First image is Naruto Will Of Fire symbol. I got that one because I think even tho it is from anime, it represents fire.


Second symbol is Brand of Sacrifice. Person who wears it becomes sacrifice. But I got two of those. It took about 4 days to get it delivered, but I couldnt get them otherwise. No local shop sells anime symbols.