SatanLucy

If history has proved anything, it is that governments are almost always incompetent.


Unless you place Kim Jong Un as government, I don't see what will you do, because your entire argument rests on premise that US governments are competent, which couldn't be further from truth.


It doesn't matter what idea you come up with. If that idea is going to be implemented by incompetent persons, it is guaranteed to fail.


The reason why North Korea keeps progressing while rest of the world sinks into shit is because in North Korea, incompetence is severely punished. Even supreme leader is expected to be highly competent and show visible results.


North Korean mentality is that of results, not pretty words. US mentality is that of pretty words and no results.


North Korea is true meritocracy. It's why scientists who develop long range missiles are one of top classes in society, even above most politicians.


You simply don't succeed in North Korea by pretty words, because leaders are elected by their competence. Even supreme leader Kim Jong Un was elected by Kim Jong Im who saw how competent his son was. He had other choices, other family members and children to place as supreme leader. When supreme leader is elected by someone who already was supreme leader, the competence increases.


It's why North Korea has ICBMs and nukes while South Korea doesn't. Only one Korea is military superpower, and it's not South Korea.

SatanLucy

I will nominate following users:


Savant - Very active user, helped site a lot, one of top debaters, does coding too, and created some site's functions which never existed before.


Whiteflame - Long term moderator and member, one of top debaters and the guy who takes time to respond to just about anyone and makes effort to help.


Bones - One of most interesting debaters in existence, along with being a top debater. Bones's debates are never boring to read. It's not just the arguments. It's the writing style which makes them stand out. Because writing a good argument is one thing, writing a good argument which is fun to read is another.

SatanLucy

The Story: The oldest and most famous Egyptian myth features Osiris, the god of the afterlife, who was murdered and dismembered by his jealous brother, Set. Osiris's devoted wife, Isis, gathered his scattered remains and magically pieced him together, resurrecting him just long enough to conceive their son, Horus. Horus himself was later resurrected by Isis after being stung by scorpions

SatanLucy

The idea of hell was stolen from other religions. Well, actually, most of Christianity is a copy from a mix of religions. Even Jesus's resurrection story actually wasn't original. Son of God coming to Earth likewise isn't original. It's some rip off of Hercules story, except Christian hercules doesn't have muscles and can't fight for shit.

SatanLucy
A or B is few keystrokes than boolean.


Boolean logic is based on "true false" and functions. In this case, when "A" is assigned true, and "B" is assigned true, A at same time becomes false because B true makes A false.



Dopamine is free, produced by the brain at zero cost, since we provide nutrients to the body anyway through the pie hole.


No, dopamine is produced specifically by dopamine-producing activities. And some activities produce way more dopamine than others.


SatanLucy

He underwent a “domestic” circumcision on 22nd day of life. The same day he was admitted to the emergency room in cardiac arrest and died despite resuscitation procedures. The autopsy findings revealed the presence of a large amount of blood in the diaper and a circumferential laceration of the penile shaft, consistent with a recent circumcision. Diffuse organ pallor was macroscopically and microscopically demonstrated, consistently with a hemorrhagic shock. To conclude, the diagnosis of hemorrhagic shock can be difficult in the newborn and requires the estimation of lost blood volume.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12325414/

SatanLucy

During 2000-2013, 19 previously healthy neonates were admitted for acute complications after circumcision. Four were admitted for bleeding, with hemophilia identified in two cases and von Willebrand disease in one. Eight boys required emergency surgery, three for severe bleeding. Four boys with amputation of the glans underwent immediate surgical reconstruction. One infant was taken to the operating room to remove an obstructing Plastibell ring. Seven boys were admitted to the intensive care unit with severe bleeding or sepsis, three of whom ultimately progressed to hemorrhagic or septic shock. Two of these children died of their complications.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34973956/

SatanLucy

In August of 2013, the mother of a three month old Memphis boy brought him to a local clinic to be circumcised. As she waited for the surgery to be completed, she felt that something was not right because her son was screaming in pain. When she inquired about how the surgery was going, doctors reassured her that everything was fine. The surgery, which normally takes between five minutes and half an hour, lasted for three hours. After the surgery was finished, the mother saw that her son’s penis had been severely damaged. She reports that in addition to being disfigured, her son experiences excruciating pain when he urinates.


https://greerinjurylawyers.com/memphis-boy-disfigured-by-botched-circumcision/

SatanLucy

A 12 day old male, term baby with mild glanular hypospadias underwent ritual circumcision after the family had consulted and obtained approval from a pediatric urologist. He presented to emergency department with amputation of the entire glans performed by an experienced religious practitioner using the Mogen clamp technique. The practitioner, who had performed thousands of circumcisions, admitted a momentary lapse of attention and accidently cutting proximal, rather than distal to the Mogen clamp. The excised glans was put on ice during transport. Two hours passed between the amputation and surgical intervention.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7970056/

SatanLucy

The authors present here a case of a 7-day-old boy who had ritual circumcision with a cauter complicated by an entire penile amputation, which was treated with the insertion of a catheter to prevent the closure of the urethra. The patient reported his penis was circumcised with cautery one day later the glans and the entire penis became discolored and necrosis, unfortunately, the entire penis was lost with the overlying skin.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10405999/

SatanLucy

Each year in the United States more than 100 newborn baby boys die as a result of circumcision and circumcision complications. This is the alarming conclusion of a study, published in the Journal of Boyhood Studies which examined hospital discharge and mortality statistics in order to answer two questions: (1) How many baby boys dies as a result of circumcision in the neonatal period (within 28 days of birth)? (2) Why are so few of these deaths officially recorded as due to circumcision?


https://www.darboninstitute.org/circumcision_deaths_complications_usa

SatanLucy
Nope, what we have established is you think of circumcision of infants as a sexual thing, and like "normal" people, I don't.


You were lucky so that circumcision didn't disrupt your sexual function. If it did, you would be telling a different story now.


And circumcision complications range from small complications, to severe penis damage, to even death. But I guess 100 babies dying from circumcision in USA every year just isn't bad enough.

SatanLucy
So we think that the ritual abuse of an infants penis is bad.
And you think that it is fine.
End of story.


Circumcision is a perfect crime. The victim is tied down, can't fight back, has no legal protection, and perpetrator is immune from prosecution.


Tho my parents didn't benefit from circumcising me, because they don't get it. They circumcised me to please some religious people around them. But those religious people weren't the future. I was. So now I hope they enjoy giving me free money while I remain unemployed forever. And they are not going to have grandchildren either cuz I won't reproduce. So yeah, I don't see how they win.

SatanLucy

I will tell chatgpt to disprove your claim one more time, and I dont want to bother chatgpt anymore, so this is last time.


That claim defeats itself.

“Empiricism is the most reliable path” is not itself an empirical observation. You cannot measure, weigh, or experimentally observe the principle “only empirical evidence counts.” It is a philosophical claim about knowledge — meaning it relies on non-empirical reasoning to justify empiricism.

So the position already depends on something beyond empiricism.

There are several deeper problems too:

  1. Logic is not empirical
  2. The laws of logic are not discovered through the senses in the same way physical facts are.

For example:

  1. If all humans are mortal
  2. And Socrates is human
  3. Then Socrates is mortal

The conclusion follows necessarily even before observation. The validity comes from rational structure, not laboratory testing.

Empirical science itself depends on:

  1. logic,
  2. mathematics,
  3. inference,
  4. causality,
  5. identity,
  6. induction.

None of those are empirically proven without circularity.

  1. Empiricism cannot justify induction
  2. Science assumes:
  3. the future will resemble the past,
  4. repeated observations reveal general laws.

But that assumption itself cannot be empirically proven without begging the question.

You would need to assume induction works in order to use past observations as evidence that induction works.

This is David Hume’s famous problem of induction.

So empiricism rests on a non-empirical foundation.

  1. Mathematics gives genuine knowledge without observation
  2. You do not need experiments to know:

2+2=4

or

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These are not “speculation.” They are necessary truths derived rationally.

Empirical observation may help apply mathematics, but mathematical truth itself is not established through sensory testing.

  1. Empirical evidence already contains non-empirical interpretation
  2. Raw sensory data does not interpret itself.

To move from:

  1. “I observe regularity”

to:

  1. “therefore there is a law”

requires reasoning beyond mere sensation.

Even scientific theories involve:

  1. explanatory inference,
  2. unobservable entities,
  3. metaphysical assumptions,
  4. probabilistic reasoning.

Atoms, fields, spacetime curvature, wavefunctions — these are not directly sensed. They are inferred.

If inference beyond direct observation were “mere speculation,” much of science would collapse.

  1. Some truths are known conceptually, not experimentally
  2. Examples:
  3. “No bachelor is married.”
  4. “A square has four sides.”
  5. “Contradictions cannot both be true in the same sense.”

These are not scientific discoveries. Yet denying them destroys coherent reasoning itself.

  1. “Non-empirical = speculation” is too broad
  2. There is a difference between:
  3. arbitrary imagination,
  4. and
  5. rational inference.

For example:

“If contingent things exist, there may be a necessary explanation” is not random fantasy. It is a philosophical inference from metaphysical premises.

You may reject the argument, but calling it “not evidence at all” ignores that rational deduction is a legitimate form of justification.

Science itself constantly uses inference to unobservables:

  1. black holes before direct imaging,
  2. quarks,
  3. dark matter,
  4. other minds,
  5. historical events.

None are directly sensed in full. They are inferred from explanatory necessity.

So the real issue is not “empirical vs non-empirical,” but whether the reasoning is:

  1. valid,
  2. coherent,
  3. explanatory,
  4. non-contradictory.

Empiricism is extremely powerful for studying the physical world. But the claim that only empirical evidence counts is philosophically self-undermining, because that claim itself is not empirically established.