Shoresy

lol, it's clear Trump is gonna run as vice president with someone else. People are gonna lose their shit.

I'd be disappointed too if my country lost democracy so easily.

It's funny how you guys went from the most secure elections in history to the end of Democracy in less than 4 years. What a truly weak system your founders created.

Was Kamala really that bad?

That's what I was thinking. Failing upward!

However long your Democrats want to shut it down. Maybe start supporting the shutdown in the polls so Democrats keep it permanently shut.

You guys should get a month off of taxes.

Lol, "federal recognition."

When a government recognizes me as identifying as a non-taxable person, I'll be ready for that kind of "federal recognition" and welcome it. Your janky president didn’t "erase" anyone. He just said federal policy has to be based on objective, measurable traits with things you can objectively verify (like biological sex, birth records, science, chromosomes, etc.) instead of self-declared identity categories or mental whims. The days of special extra legal rights for pedos and stalkers are over for you guys. Back to the shadows (if you want to call that "erasing")

This wasn’t just about "inclusion." "Federal recognition"created a legal loophole where intent or risk can't ever be screened because “identity” was treated as automatically valid. That’s why so many people said, this isn’t about being anti-anyone; it’s about keeping objective safeguards in place. "Federal recognition" blurs the biological boundaries in spaces that traditionally functioned with clear, biologically based criteria for decency, safety, and fairness.

Like Lincoln, if he saves your country from extinction via communism, they will probably put him on your money decades from now after your side goes the way of the 1865 Lincoln haters. Nobody even remembers the 1865 political cartoons of Lincoln. They just know he was important enough to be on the money.

You’re linking a Georgetown piece that doesn’t even address the section Democrats slipped in to roll back Trump’s penalties on states that fund alien care. The very proposal you’re defending restores the enhanced federal match for emergency Medicaid and removes the financial disincentives for sanctuary cities. That’s the whole battle, not the ACA subsidies you’re hand-waving about. You are just proving my point that they can frame it about "general" healthcare to friendly media like your source while ignoring actual provisions they want reinstated subsidizing alien healthcare that the States pay for.

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/tracking-the-medicaid-provisions-in-the-2025-budget-bill/

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/proposed-medicaid-federal-match-penalty-for-states-that-have-expanded-coverage-for-immigrants-state-by-state-estimates/

You’re missing the real issue. This isn’t about giving illegal immigrants “free healthcare” or about Obamacare subsidies in general. Their budget proposal removes Trump’s penalty on states that fund healthcare for undocumented immigrants. Under Trump’s rule, those states lost part of their federal Medicaid match (their reimbursement) if they used state money to cover illegal residents. The new Democratic version reverses that penalty, which means those same states get their enhanced federal reimbursement restored even while continuing to fund alien care. So, no, it’s not “free coverage” directly from the feds. Your federal government used to reimburse states that do it themselves with expanded coverage for aliens, which states like California absolutely do under ..i think it's called MEDI-CAL?. That’s the whole point you’re ignoring. The propaganda “fact-checkers” avoid this part because they frame the question around eligibility, not reimbursement. Once you understand that difference, it’s obvious what’s really being fought over. They want a fiscal backdoor that props up sanctuary-state healthcare programs under the banner of “defending Obamacare.” And they want that reinstated asap before it becomes too expensive to shelter illegal migrants. The propaganda wants to hide this change. They basically want a repeal of the Trump bill and will shut down the government until it happens. and its urgent cause local hospitals will start closing and people will blame the migrants or the governors and mayors. When the problem is in your front yard, you can't afford to wait for help 3000 miles away.

framing the shutdown as “about Obamacare” keeps Americans focused on something familiar and sympathetic instead of the real fight which is whether states can be punished for defying federal sanctuary and coverage rules. Your Democrats know that “state funding for illegal immigrants” doesn’t poll well with Americans, so they rebrand the standoff as a "general" defense of healthcare access (Obamacare, Medicaid), and not what it actually is which is a carve-out for sanctuary cities. It's an easy half-truth that can be sold to the friendly American media.

Carney is very popular in Ottawa. He isn't going anywhere, but the western provinces might. Carney knows which palms to keep full.

That's what the talking points are about. The actual battle is over state's rights and sanctuary cities. If it was just about Obamacare, there would be no reason to shut the government down as baseline Obamacare funding has already been settled law for over a decade. The shutdown isn’t about maintaining existing healthcare programs like Obamacare or Medicare, it’s about whether states should be allowed to use their own money to expand benefits for undocumented immigrants without losing federal Medicaid funds. In other words, it’s a power struggle between federal authority and state autonomy, with sanctuary city policies as the ultimate prize to the winner of this fight.

There's literally a clause they want to reinstate saying states will get reimbursed for medical care costs from undocumented immigrants.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/fact-democrats-shut-down-government-over-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

The bill ended the higher federal reimbursement rate that states once received for providing emergency Medicaid care to undocumented immigrants, meaning states now only get the standard federal match instead of the enhanced one. It also introduced financial penalties that reduce overall federal Medicaid funding for states that choose to use their own money to expand health coverage for undocumented immigrants or others not federally eligible. Despite those cuts, emergency Medicaid itself still remains in place, so hospitals can still be reimbursed for providing life-saving or stabilizing care to people who qualify in every other way except their immigration status. Your democrats are shutting your government down mainly to get those subsidies reinstated. The Obamacare emergency subsidies are not the main reason for your shutdown. Trump is basically imposing economic sanctions on sanctuary cities to make it unaffordable to continue sheltering illegal aliens. Trump isn't just waging a ground war in your cities, it's also an economic war.

I'll bet all the Southern Historians rated Lincoln the worst president ever in 1865. Give Trump 100 years, and he will be number one.

Jailing political opponents because they’re political opponents isn’t a policy goal. Deploying the U.S. military against peaceful citizens isn’t a policy goal. Trying to overturn an election you lost isn’t a policy goal. These aren’t abuses of power for an agenda, they’re abuses of power for self-preservation.

I'd have to agree with you. Trump is unique in that he is not trying to hide what he is doing unlike his predecessors. He also makes his staff changes very public unlike before. I'm sure you won't recognize many of these names. I sure don't.

Obama Administration

Gerald Walpin (Inspector General, CNCS)

General Stanley McChrystal (U.S. Afghanistan Commander)

Shirley Sherrod (USDA official)

Desiree Rogers (White House Social Secretary)

Van Jones (Green Jobs Czar)

Dennis Blair (Director of National Intelligence)

General David McKiernan (U.S. Commander, Afghanistan)

Rick Wagoner (CEO, GM — requested resignation)

Charles Freeman (National Intelligence Council nominee withdrew under pressure)

Christina Romer (Council of Economic Advisers Chair — forced resignation)

Vivek Kundra (Federal CIO — left amid controversy)

Biden Administration

Peter B. Robb (NLRB General Counsel)

Alice Stock (Deputy General Counsel, NLRB)

Andrew Saul (Social Security Administration Commissioner)

David Black (SSA Deputy Commissioner)

Fired 18 Trump appointees on military academy advisory boards

Fired Five White House staffers fired over marijuana use

Dr. Rachel Levine’s predecessor at HHS removed early in transition

Several ICE and Border Patrol leaders replaced in early 2021

Michael Pack (U.S. Agency for Global Media CEO)

Sharon Gustafson (EEOC General Counsel)

Victoria Spartz appointees at SBA and other agencies replaced early 2021

Substantial staff turnover among senior advisors and press team (Psaki, Bedingfield, Ricchetti aides, Klain replacement phase)

Maybe he was insulting your mother?

The necessity for reproduction isnt really compelling in first world countries due to their ability to rely on immigration to address population declines.

When the immigrants eventually assimilate, they will just stop having kids too when they become nihilistic Americans.

Let's be honest. He was probably in charge in 2020.

TBH I think Trump is probably using the guard to troll democrats or rage bait leftists in big cities.

I get the same feeling as well. Nobody is forcing those governors and mayors to support attacks on federal law enforcement officers.

Yesterday's Lincoln haters are tomorrow's Trump lovers.

Honestly, I think a lot of your progressive mayors made sanctuary cities mostly as a campaign stunt in the past, but now your president has apparently trolled most of those mayors into taking a hard stance against federal immigration laws, and from up here, law breakers usually don't win popular support either locally or globally.

It doesn't seem that false to me. Law breakers and insurrectionists of Lincoln's day fervently called him a tyrant until decades after that generation died off. The same is likely to happen today. I don't really get the hype supporting the assault on your law enforcement officers just because you don't like the words of your president. It's seems to me like it's asking for a repeat of your civil war, whether you want a civil war or not. That's what we call up here "taking the law into your own hands." I suppose being a Democrat back then must have not been without some hype to have your country devolve into a civil war over federal laws and "states rights."

Ah yes! Lincoln, the most popular American president. It's clear where Trump is drawing his inspiration!

I see family cohesion and population maintenance didn’t make your list. Without a sustained population of demographic outliers, like engineers and inventors and innovators, critical job shortages snowball into chaos when living standards plummet. And when family structures weaken, you end up with shallow generations. You end up with young, disillusioned people who see no reason to contribute substantially because neither their family nor society has given them even a plausible one. The only sure thing gender equality has objectively produced for society in the last 4 decades are generations of nihilists

Didn't your president say he was enjoying the shutdown as it allowed for unrestrained firings using the uncontestable reason being "well, there just isn't any money"...And I suppose since slavery is illegal in the USA, they have to set them free.

Canada doesn't have a bunch of q-tips waddling around in public like it's a Bingo game day. When we protest actual tyrants, we simply hold referendums to separate from tyrants.

A secular sermon for people who lost faith in progress.

He already gave the land away to the indigenous.