fauxlaw wrote:
Illegals committing murder is a current event.
ICE committing murder is a current event too.
fauxlaw wrote:
Illegals committing murder is a current event.
ICE committing murder is a current event too.
linate wrote:
The usa spends 7 trillion a year. 2.8 trillion is social security and Medicare which are mostly funded through payroll taxes. 1.8 trillion is the deficit. The rest is everything else. 1 trillion is interest on debt
During his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump stated that he could eliminate the country's roughly $19 trillion national debt over a period of eight years, he claimed it could be done "very easily and very quickly".
During Trump’s first term the U.S. gross national debt increased by approximately $7.8 trillion (a 41% increase)
During Trump's second term, the National debt has gone up by $3.8 trillion so far, (a 10.6% increase in only one year and seven months)
I guess turning the White House into a golden palace fit for King Donald was expensive.
Oh well, at least he took away Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits from over1.5 million children, that should help pay for some of his vanity projects.
Debby wrote:
The prophets promised a coming messiah. Jesus had all the markings of a messiah.
I sure wish you didn't put it that way, Jesus did not have "all the marking" of the Jewish Messiah. "
Jesus even said he had come to fulfil the laws. His resurrection proved his case.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the prophesized Messiah because Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies of Judaism and He did not possess the personal qualifications of Judaism’s Messiah.
Christianity and Judaism are two separate religions, Christianity holds that Jesus is the Messiah, Judaism does not.
Debby wrote:
They used the bright yellow to identify it as helium and it stuck.
The color of the spectral line is bright yellow, and the unique signature identified it as a new element, but the color of the spectral line had nothing to do with how it was named, it was named Helium because the element was discovered on the sun (Greek for sun is Helios).
Debby wrote:
Helium was discovered on the sun because of its bright yellow colour which is very unique.
Helium itself is a colorless gas, but its spectral line is bright yellow, and since all the elements have a unique spectral fingerprint, they are all equally unique.
RemyBrown wrote:
Because virginity is rare nationwide for 24 yr olds, I'm proud of not being a sex addict, and with all the postings I do of women, people assume I'm an incel who is mad at women because they won't have sex with me. I'm mad at them because they're (with very few exceptions) illogical for choosing the bear and they vote. I try and be as logical as I can.
There is nothing illogical about a woman choosing the lesser of two creepies.
FLRW wrote:
Scientists know the elements in the sun through spectroscopy, which analyzes the unique light signatures (or wavelengths) absorbed or emitted by different chemical elements. When sunlight passes through a prism, dark lines appear in the spectrum. Each element blocks specific wavelengths, acting like a chemical fingerprint. Why don't you say what kind of education you have?
Here's an interesting factoid:
Helium is named after the sun God Helios, and the reason Helium is called that is because it was discovered on the sun two decades before it was discovered on Earth.
Cool nerd fact.
Debby wrote:
The Gospels are named after the authors who wrote them. Mark, Luke, Matthew and John. They were Jesus’s disciples at that time.
Not true, they were named after the disciples, but the disciples were not the authors.
The Gospels aren't straight-forward historical records nor are they eyewitness accounts; and they were put into their current form slowly, over a period of about three hundred years. They contain details of events that had no one else present to record them and from a historical basis, they do not concur on all details, making them historically suspect.
This is not to say that the Gospels are not documents that present an image of Christian truth, it is just to recognize the Bible for what it is, a book that recorded the religious experience of a much earlier and very special age in mankind's development. I understand that the men who wrote the Bible were not biographers, they were writing "Sacred History" from the passionate perspective of their own religious experience. When I read the Bible, I read about a devout people in whom the most profound truth was emerging, and I believe they understood that it was a truth that resonates from within, not one that is imposed from outside.
We must simply consider that someone as disturbingly radical as Christ, as powerful in actions, presence, and legacy as he was, could only be expected to incite widely varying interpretations of his life.
Christianity is not a static movement, it's a timeless, living faith that speaks to individuals in whatever time, place, or context they are in. It is the truth that "is within" that the Bible speaks of and to. If we listen to that "voice within" we will know how to interpret it and we will be able to distinguish between what is permanent truth and what is cultural bias. The proper way to read it is with the heart rather than the intellect, and to do so we must change our focus from actively pondering the external events to passively opening to the internal, transcendent knowledge within.
SatanLucy wrote:
You disagree a lot with everyone. There literally never was a person or religion or ideology you didn't disagree with.
Not so, he was Super Catholicman for a whole week, he had a cape and everything, remember?
SatanLucy wrote:
Yeah, it's difficult to sell things you like, cuz then you don't have them anymore. I am not sure I can ever sell my manga collection, even if I need the money.
Damn, I was gonna sell our house, but not if we can't live here afterward, foiled again.
Thanks for the tip off, I coulda had no place to live.
Last month my wife got a new car, we traded the old one in, I was wondering why she doesn't drive the old one anymore, this explains it, thanks.
Shoresy wrote:
I'd say Pretti didn't lear enough to ignore political cultists asking the public to physically confront and fight law enforcement.
Oh no, no way can democracy survive if others start kicking cars too. Hopefully ICE patriots will be able to shoot them all before they bring down the country and destroy civilization.
My God, first they kick a car, then they touch the reflecting pool, one even wrote numbers in the sand with seashells, these terrorists will stop at nothing to destroy the country.
At least their trees are all gross.
""Like, look at the blue cities. What do they have in common? They're all dirty. They're filthy, dirty. Their streets are dirty, their streets smell, their storefronts are broken, their trees are all gross. Everything about the place is dirty, and I don't want to mention any specific city. It's really all of them." - Donald Trump, Lord and Savior
Are you saying that when you sell something, you don't have it anymore?
That sucks, thanks for telling us about this loophole.
SergeantLynch wrote:
The Trump family are investors, they do not need to understand the technology...They only need to recognise the profitability.
Yeah, and in a brilliant read of the market, they invested in US built drones right before Daddy imposed sweeping tariffs on foreign-made drones. As investors, they have great track record in predicting what Daddy is going to do, it's like they are prediction geniuses.
Shoresy wrote:
Insurrection: an organized, usually violent revolt or uprising by a group of people against an established government or civil authority.
What's missing?
Alex Pretti kicking an established government car and violently grabbing an established law authority.
Technically, he was killed before he could go to trial as an actual insurrectionist.
He was trying to overthrow the government by kicking a car, fortunately he was murdered so America survived the attack.
MAGA is such a poorly educated hoot.
"I love the poorly educated" - your God and Savior, Donald Trump
Shoresy wrote:
That's why MAGA is panicking.
Why panic? Being a minority in America grants a ton of extra privileges.
Yep, MAGA's hostility towards minorities is a matter of jealousy...well, that and penis envy.
Bottom of the social barrel AND tiny dicks, no wonder they are so angry.
Debby wrote:
Trump is fixated about his loss and still does not accept it. He wants to change the voting rights to see that it never happens again even though it was certified under his government.
MAGA can't accept election results if white votes count the same as people of color votes, Trump is a white vote supremacist, counting the votes of people of color, LGBTQ, and Democrats is election fraud.
SergeantLynch wrote:
Tell Elon.
He needs to save rocket fuel.
Rocket fuel will be more affordable once The Straits of Hormuz becomes a state,
SergeantLynch wrote:
First, got to get those damn rockets to stop exploding and try and work out how to avoid the Moon.
Avoiding the moon is easy schmeezy, just go during the day.
Debby wrote:
And Elon Musk is still looking to Mars as the future.
That's because he has so much more in common with Martians than Earth people.
Debby wrote:
He might go broke trying. Stocks of SpaceX is crashing too.
He has a long way to go to get to broke.
fauxlaw wrote:
For an event that occurred 5.5 years ago on Jan 6, Democrats have been fixated ever since.
Five and a half years is nothing, I understand there are whack jobs out there still fixated on Al Gore for God's sake.
SergeantLynch wrote:
Hmmmm.
Six sentences of error rife rambling just to have a dig at Al Gore.
Can you imagine still being bunged up about Al Gore? Most people on this board don't even know who Al Gore is, and for the rest of us, he's barely a dim memory.
Foe Faux, festering is a lifestyle choice.
Did you graduate from high school?
He graduated from Trump University, where they teach you that science is fake, and you should instead, worship deception.
fauxlaw wrote:
Sidewalker;
We know Jesus was Jewish because he lived at home with his parents until he was 33, went into his father’s business, his mother thought he was God, and he thought his mother was a virgin.
Wow, there's a lot there "we know," but how do "we" know? We have no original documents known to be written by the "authors." We have years of translation by characters whose motives are not completely understood. And the string of "We know he was Jewish..." is a string of conjecture. We do have testimony of the genealogy of Jesus to indicate he was of the House of Judah, through David, and the genealogies of Mary and Joseph, though Joseph was not Jesus' father by genetics, but by willing obligation as Mary's husband. He lived at home with Mary, but as for Joseph, depending on the record as given alone, Joseph is not mentioned again after Mary and Joseph return to Jerusalem to find Jesus in the temple with the elders when he was 12. Joseph is not mentioned again in the record after that event. That Jesus was a carpenter, like Joseph, is recorded, but that is not a uniquely Jewish profession. And other tribes of Israel, and outside that genealogy, also have children living with parents well into adulthood. Some do, today. They are not all Jewish, either. And where are we told that Jesus thought his mother remained a virgin?
No, none of these things proves Jesus was a Jew. That he was, I do not contest, but not for any of those reasons you claim. The Romans claimed he was by notice on his cross. During his lifetime, with only a couple of noted exceptions, his dealings were with Jews, only.
Regarding my comments about how we know Jesus was Jewish, I was just telling an old joke, I rarely take Debby seriously.
But my prior comment was serious:
Don't forget, Jesus was Jewish and as a Jew, He was one of those who rejected that he was God.
Jesus never explicitly claimed divinity, and he pretty explicitly denied it multiple times (My “Father is greater than I” and "Why do you call me good? No one is good—except God alone" are just two examples). He referred to himself as the "Son of Man" and the "Messiah," which within His Jewish culture, both terms were referential to human beings, they were agent roles "serving God", rather than God.
It is certainly not my intent to contend that what was implicit in His life and was made explicit through theological discourse four hundred years later is not an image of truth, I do believe it is, but the philosophical concept of the Incarnation developed over hundreds of years and long after His death. The religion of Jesus was not a religion "about" Jesus.
There is no way to know with any certainty what Jesus' true nature was, or whether or not he physically resurrected after death, my terribly unpopular opinion on the matter is that it just doesn't matter to me. It is simply enough for me to know that the things He did and said caused His contemporaries to think of Him in completely new dimensions and that there was something to this man's life that caused those who knew it best to reach the conclusion that it was divine in nature. The divisive contentions about whether or not he actually rose from the grave in bodily form just do not matter to me. It is enough for me to know that his spirit jumped dramatically to life after his death, and that because of this, he gave millions and millions of people hope that they would never have had if He hadn't lived and died the way He did.
To the folks that will find my position on the matter offensive, sorry, but I have read and know the Bible well, and one thing is clear to me, Jesus was a man who rarely spoke of himself, and who never spoke about the detached metaphysical constructs so many focus on; apparently those kinds of intellectual disputes just weren't important to him and I choose to believe this was because He understood how these matters could digress into divisive contrasts and disunity.
His words, his actions, and his life had nothing whatsoever to do with divisiveness and disunity, and the Bible tells us that those who do engage in divisiveness and disunity in His name are "crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace" - Hebrews 6:6
Debby wrote:
The Jewish numbers fell drastically after they rejected Jesus as God. That issue has been settled.
Don't forget, Jesus was Jewish and as a Jew, He was one of those who rejected that he was God.
We know Jesus was Jewish because he lived at home with his parents until he was 33, went into his father’s business, his mother thought he was God, and he thought his mother was a virgin.
fauxlaw wrote:
Sidewalker claimed that I wrote, in my #15 [& 16, though that was added in error]: "a particle cannot have a periodicity, nor can it be spread out in space."
I did not originate that, my friend. I was quoting the originator of this thread. Oh! that's you!
Yes, you quoted my statement and then tries to refute it with an absurd misunderstanding of quantum entanglement, what you said:
"Albert Einstein and some associates, in about 1935, theorized a concept they called "Quantum Entanglement," which refutes your claim of particle non-periodicity and non-spread [expansion or proliferation?] in space."
And your conclusion is, effectively, in agreement with what you [your #1] & I [my #15] originally said. mutual appreciation society?
Nice try at misrepresenting the exchange, I made the statement, you refuted it with an illogical statement, and I responded by explaining my OP.
You didn't know what you were talking about, and now you want to give the false appearance that you did.
Kermos wrote:
@Sidewalker wrote in post #88: @Kermos I get it, you don’t understand science or Christianity. Point made.
THREAD HIJACK ATTEMPT ALERT
Since you falter in this debate, then you resort to personal attack against your debate opponent, just as I delineated in the Pharmakeia Principle explained in post #71.
Wisdom leads me (1 Corinthians 1:24). I RAISE A HALLELUJAH TO MY ARMOR PROVIDER, THE LIVING KING JESUS!
You failed to address the thread topic of “Show Me How The Big Bang Theory Is Not A Leap Of Faith”.
I'm sorry Pumpkin, but your argument that God is dishonest is just not convincing. Don't fret, there are a lot of posters here that will join you in disparaging Christianity, I'm just not one of them.
SergeantLynch wrote:
If there is any chance of money in it, then people will drag up the past.
When do I get my "Trail of Tears" money?
Savant wrote:
Hempel’s Dilemma kind of deals with this and reflects some of my own thoughts as well. A physicalist 500 years ago would probably see modern physics as basically magic. If the rules of physics change based on new discoveries, no matter how wacky the stuff we discover, then it seems like it has the potential to include ghosts or spells. I question the extent to which a spirit would really seem crazier than quantum mechanics to a physicalist a few centuries ago. If something breaks the laws of physics, then it's really our understanding of physics that's wrong.
That’s what I’m getting at with the OP, physicalism/materialism seems to be the default position for most people that believe they are being scientific, but it appears that they are presuming 400-year-old science. There’s been a lot of progress since Newton and the mechanistic view of nature, the belief that a deterministic reality can be defined as “matter in motion” has been untenable for more than a century. Science has gone so far beyond those ideas that the presumption of physicalism is not consistent with the current scientific paradigm. I don’t know about ghosts and spells, but it’s clear that science is telling us that there exists dimensions of reality that lay beyond the four-dimensional framework of physicalism.
The progress of science has forced a much more generous view of the nature of reality on us, it's clearly pointing to realities that fall outside of science’s frame of reference, not multiple worlds, but one world encountered at multiple different levels.
There I so much discussion about what “exists” or is “real”, but nobody seems to be able to tell what they mean when they use the word “exist” or “real”. Whenever someone does explain the criteria of existence, they give a definition that when applied to the physical world, tells us it doesn’t exist either. A criterion of existence that says nothing exists is illogical.
I’ve asked repeatedly, but nobody that talks about what does and doesn’t exist can tell me what they really mean, what are the qualities that something that exist has, or something that doesn’t exist, doesn’t have. We know that light exists, but it has none of physicalism’s traditional standards of existence. Most people who claim science supports their belief in physicalism, upon examination, are in the end, flatly unscientific.