Debby wrote: Your corrections of the Bible failed. You just misunderstood everything.

You need to read what I was responding to, DICK HEAD! It had nothing to do with the bible and everything to do with Islam you absolute >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Islam,[......................................................]Has literally elements which are incompatible with Human Rights civilisation. today, we all know that.

I Corrected that for you.

If killing people is murder and a crime, so is public executions. Neither are justifiable.

How many did Moses kill ?

 I will not stick myself in your other arguments. 

Which other arguments? And did someone actually ask you for an opinion? If so,where?

Debby Jesus was an explorer. He discovered heaven and made it accessible to all.

Do you actually realise the import of what you have written there? Because I doubt you do.

Debby John 14:2-4. My fathers house (in heaven)has many rooms, if that were not so would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you.

Just as I thought, you just do not realise nor understand what it is that you have written.

According to the BIBLE, god/Jesus created heaven he didn't "discover" it.

And not everyone is welcome in heaven unconditionally. That includes YOU!

Debby God the father created heaven and Jesus was his son born from Virgin Mary. Read your Bible.

Not according to Christian belief . Christians say that the evidence for Jesus being god can be found in Genesis and other parts of the OT.. So I think you aught to read yours.

Debby Jesus was an explorer. He discovered heaven and made it accessible to all.

Do you actually realise the import of what you have written there? Because I doubt you do.

Debby John 14:2-4. My fathers house (in heaven)has many rooms, if that were not so would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you.

Just as I thought, you just do not realise nor understand what it is that you have written.

According to the BIBLE, god/Jesus created heaven he didn't "discover" it.

And not everyone is welcome in heaven unconditionally. That includes YOU!

Jesus was an explorer. He discovered heaven and made it accessible to all.

Do you actually realise the import of what you have written there? Because I doubt you do.

Nice, You'll soon be walking on water, turning water into wine, curing leapers, casting out demons with just a few spoken words and bringing yourself back to life. I would have added raising the other dead, but even I can do that.

Sometimes the way that makes sense is a way that distorts the higher divine truth being revealed in scripture, which gives us a limited glimpse into something beyond human understanding. 

I see.

So are you claiming to fully understand scripture or is that you simply have faith in what has been written?

Do you put into practice what the New testament teaches?

You are so afraid to answer this question that I have asked you FOUR!!! times . Why is that?

Is it any wonder people just tire of you and refuse to converse with you.

As as far as this thread is concerned now, you are the only person left to argue with yourself.

Lazarus was only four day sand not seven days when Jesus arrived at Bethany.

I know....so the bible says.

Shiva means seven.

Ok. And did the relatives of the supposed "dead" Lazarus believe that he was physically dead, not breathing, lifeless and had been expired for 4 days before and when Jesus arrived on the scene ?

Lazarus was not aware of anything he was dead before Jesus arrived in Bethany

My question was about the relatives of Lazarus. did you miss it. here it is again. -

>>> Did the relatives of the supposed "dead" Lazarus believe that he was physically dead, not breathing, lifeless and had been expired for 4 days before and when Jesus arrived on the scene ?

The body of Lazaruswas dead, decaying and emitting stench before Jesus arrived in Bethany.

You missed the question AGAIN!!! But ok, try this_ Did the relatives believe that - in your own words ' The body of Lazarus was dead, decaying and emitting stench before Jesus arrived in Bethany?

Lazarus was only four day sand not seven days when Jesus arrived at Bethany.

I know....so the bible says.

Shiva means seven.

Ok. And did the relatives of the supposed "dead" Lazarus believe that he was physically dead, not breathing, lifeless and had been expired for 4 days before and when Jesus arrived on the scene ?

Lazarus was not aware of anything he was dead before Jesus arrived in Bethany

My question was about the relatives of Lazarus. did you miss it. here it is again. -

>>> Did the relatives of the supposed "dead" Lazarus believe that he was physically dead, not breathing, lifeless and had been expired for 4 days before and when Jesus arrived on the scene ?

Lazarus was only four day sand not seven days when Jesus arrived at Bethany.

I know....so the bible says.

Shiva means seven.

Ok. And did the relatives of the supposed "dead" Lazarus believe that he was physically dead, not breathing, lifeless and had been expired for 4 days before and when Jesus arrived on the scene ?

Lazarus was dead and in the Tom for 4 days by the time Jesus arrived in Bethany.

Well I believe. there is a Jewish custom that blows your claim out of the water, its called Shiva. Look it up.

Debby wrote:Lazarus was dead and in the Tom for 4 days by the time Jesus arrived in Bethany.

SergeantLynch wrote:Sounds like an orgy.

I won't mention necrophilia.

But Jesus brought Lazarus back to life.

"Back to life", meaning that he did die. after Jesus- god/ son of god- said that he wouldn't. You do make me laugh at times.

He didn't "die" at all. This ceremony was nothing more than a ritualistic raising to a higher level(my guess is to high priest) in the Jesus movement But iv'e shown this to be the case to you many times now and won't be covering it again, unless you decide to create your own thread on the matter.Which I doubt you have the balls to do so because you don't know anything about that which you claim , pretend to know.

And I'm just guessing that highways and hedges is definitely a much later turn of phrase.

Of course.

He traveled all around Galilee actually

I haven't denied that he travelled.

Jesus was on the road throughout his ministry.

He had a centre of operations firmly embedded in Bethany were he spent most of his time relaxing and dipping his feet in the Jordan, while his best friend who "he loved" was sleeping, then sick and then dead. although Jesus said he wouldn't die. THEN HE DID DIE!

HI Stephen.

Not sure that "Highways and Hedges" were commonplace in Middle Eastern semi-desert regions two thousand years ago...More sort of dirt tracks and scrub.

Good morning Serge. Nice to hear from you . How's the move going?

In response to your comment. my comment was simply a response to this post >>>https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/13v/demons-vs-christians-on-debate-craft?page=1&comment_number=15 @JenKiggans

Which caused this verse to spring to mind. luke23:25 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

Although, I do agree about dirt tracks and scrub quip. Which the comment by @JenKiggans caused me to make a quip of my own considering I live almost on the countryside of town_ Stoke Prior.

I hope you and the family are all good all the best.

Our mission from the Lord Jesus Christ is to "go out into the highways and hedges and preach the Gospel to every man."

And Highways and in hedges is where most of us will be living if the demented woke folk of the worldhas its way.

You will be replaced by a demon

Why will I be replaced by a demon?

So Moses wrote the contradiction? Yes or no?

And, how did Moses write about his own death and burial?

You are not a practicing Christian, the demons are after your seat.

I didn't ask that did I? I asked>>> Do you regard me as a demon?

Stephen: Who are the Demons?

SatanLucy: I am demon, I don't know about others tho.

But you use the demons - plural, saying , " demons have won "on this site".

What have they won?

Abraham did not write either Genesis, Moses did. So Moses should be believed.Exodus 6:3.

So then it was Moses that wrote the blatant contradiction between what god says and what Abraham says.

And again I have to point out to you - pointing to you absolute lack of biblical knowledge - that it is widely accepted that Moses wrote the first five books of the bible which in case you missed it- includes Genesis.

Off you go now.

Demons are those who deny Jesus. So long as there are Christians on this site, demons cannot win.

I see. So do you regard me as a demon?

Even tho it seems like demons have won so far on this site,

What does that mean? Who are the Demons? Can you point them out? What do you mean by Demon? What have they actually won?

Will demons win or will Christians win?

No. It'll be common sense .

Debby: That is why God turned to Moses. In an exodus 6:3 I appeared to Abraham , unto Isaac, unto Jacob by the name God Almighty , was I not known to them. Only Moses knew God’s true name.

It doesn't alter the fact that Abraham was going around calling god by HIS name when, according to GOD HIMSELF he hadn't made his name known to him.

I've shown you the BIBLICAL evidence for this. You accept it or you don't. I don't care.

Here it is again:

"And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of Jehovah it shall be seen."

(Genesis 22:14)

"And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lifted up my hand unto Jehovah, God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth"

(Genesis 14:22)

So tell us, how was Abraham able to call GOD by a name that he didn't know and had never been revealed to him???

Off you go now.

i don't care!