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If someone wants to tell me that wylted's justification is horrible assuming that Banana knows From inside and out, please be my guest

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I was going to get chapter and verse of my posts about wylted, so thanks for saving me the time. Those posts are not flip-flopping. I said that I saw one fact as a likely point against wylted, and later I said that I saw something else as a tentative point in wylted's favor. In case you did not know this, it's possible to see a point in favor of something and another point against it without leaning strongly one way or the other.

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I was going to get chapter and verse of my posts about wylted, so thanks for saving me the time. Those posts are not flip-flopping. I said that I saw one fact as a likely point against wylted, and later I said that I saw something else as a tentative point in wylted's favor. In case you did not know this, it's possible to see a point in favor of something and another point against it without leaning strongly one way or the other.

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That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.

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That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.

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If I claim my character I claim my role too. So lynch me if you want. I aint handing over my lunch/lynch money

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The question isn't whether or not we should do it. It's just whether we should popcorn it by making specific people vote Yes or randomize it.

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Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 9:41 PM (post #35)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/25/2026 at 10:50 PM (post #7)
I do like Thoth's early initiative to get people to claim how they voted.
Why?

Possibly because it's a good idea and there's no reason for me to believe anyone else would have thought of it. Call me arrogant, but Casey, Kohai, Lunatic, Magoroth, and wylted had posted before I brought it up.

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Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #30)
Im all for it, but I need everyone else to agree with me too. This ain’t a one man show unfortunately

Agree with YOU? You mean agree with ME? Pie out here tryna take credit for my idea.

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I tentatively townread him because his claim sounds less absurd to me than Lunatic was making it sound.

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I suppose that ipse dixit is the cardinal sin of debating, but some arguments are so logically or ethically deformed that the only proper response is a flat no like Kyle and Stan in the South Park NAMBLA episode. "Dude, you have sex with children!" Like that video on Debatecraft's Youtube channel where Bullish advocated for eleventh-trimester abortion. "Dude, you are advocating for making it legal to kill children!"

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Those same women will call a miscarriage a tragedy because the mother wanted the baby, as though being wanted by your parents decides whether or not you are human.

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Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/26/2026 at 1:53 AM (post #14)
I’m up, I’m sleepy as hell though. Will be here later on

Smh you and Luna are the only people on during my peak activity hours.

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Per wiki:

Sarah's biggest burden is from the voices telling her that if she did not kill everyone who arrived in the two vehicles (Jim, Tabitha, Julie, and Ethan from the RV and Tobey and Jade from the Audi), her brother would die and there would be a massacre like the last time two cars arrived the same day.

This seems like solid justification for PGO to me. Sure, there might be other details that don't fit with PGO, like the next sentence in that article, but any justification can have holes poked in it.

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Re: Lunatic's #58 in the previous thread

In general, I'd at least most mods would give scum some sort of counter to a cop. However, you may be cooking with the point about the offer implying that town knowing this role could mean its a useful role to know about. I could probably be swayed into a yes.

I think it's more evidence for a no because just knowing that there is such a role is useful by itself.

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Thoth · 3 months ago

I could say a lot of things about Pie but nobody ever accused him of being stupid

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Thoth · 3 months ago

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 10:30 PM (post #54)
Possibly a pairing of Thoth/Pie

Possibly Pie figuring it out before he read up to my posts and tryna claim credit for my discovery

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Thoth · 3 months ago

Expanding on post #51, a PGO claim could be from a scum role that does not want to be visited. I wonder what that could be

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Thoth · 3 months ago

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 10:21 PM (post #50)
I guess that could be a real justification in the loosest form possible if banana didn't put any effort into character sheets.

I think my justification is solid. Let me check the wiki.

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Thoth · 3 months ago

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 10:21 PM (post #50)
So let's say we find out the role is a Godfather or roleblocker or something. Does that really help us that much in the grand scheme of things, when those are common to scum anyway? Just have to weigh if the knowledge is worth a potential buff.

The offer implies that scum have a role where just knowing about it helps town. This is useful information in and of itself. Like, knowing that scum have a roleblocker is not very helpful since we would probably find that out by day 2 and would probably choose the same targets for our night actions anyway, but knowing that scum have a Godfather could change how a Cop plays.

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Thoth · 3 months ago

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #31)
Thoth's assumption that mafia knows what role would get revealed, and what power they would gain is interesting, possibly TMI.

If anything, I would declare TMI Magoroth's assumption in post #2 that scum don't know what the advantage is.