Kohai’s speculation about an extra kill was less stupid than I thought. With Pie’s Hated in play, nobody casts a vote there unless we are collectively sure we want to lynch him.
I have jury duty tomorrow.
I am going to sleep now and almost certainly will not be on before EoD.
VTL: Lunatic
Because it would end the day phase without any chance for further discussion, or at least without a chance to change targets.
I am willing to swap to Lunatic, but I don't want to accidentally hammer.
I'm fine swapping to Lunatic.
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/20/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #216)
It looks like we're leaning Mikal or Kohai today, and I think I would still rather go Mikal. On Kohai we just have him wanting a character claim from me and that he transitioned real quick from "Pie town" to "lynching Pie may be warranted"; on Mikal we have him wanting Pie lynched on the chance that scum can pull off two kills tonight, which is a lot more of a reach. This means Mikal was thinking Rex made a game where town loses unless we lynch the Hated DP1 out of an overabundance of caution, and it's just hard for me to buy that Mikal would seriously consider that.
As much as I agree with all this, and despite my own scumread of Mikal, I have a hard time believing that scum!Mikal would seriously argue those points. But I have a hard time believing that town!Mikal would argue them either, so I suppose it's a moot point.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 10:24 PM (post #211)
I'd like to get a clear set of reads from you before the DP ends, feels like I don't have a bead on your views of most of the players in this game.
If I have to, I would say:
wylted is strong townlean for the Candace claim
Mikal's not-really-a-claim is scumleanworthy
I don't see Pie as likely to immediately fake-claim Hated, but I suppose scum!Pie could have used some of their fake-claim info to do it for towncred
I suppose Wryly's silly fake-claim is a very minor townlean. I don't know if Wryly would attract that much attention as scum
Vader's takes have been solid. Kohai has been tunnelly and said some weird things, but that's NAI for him. Null on both
Lunatic's #162 and #166 come off as tunnelly on Kohai
My top pick for a lynch is Mikal, closely followed by Lunatic.
Kohai hasn't claimed?
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 8:25 PM (post #192)
Why don't you think Kohai's claim has value?
I do think that it would have value. The question is whether the net value would favor scum or town. I haven't seen anything particularly scummy from Kohai, so a claim from him would likely help scum more than us.
Originally Posted by wylted on 7/20/2026 at 9:01 PM (post #201)
Who are you willing to lynch. Is it just Mikal or do you have others you might consider?
It's not like I have enough data to form strong opinions. Mikal would be my first choice. I could probably sheeptown a movement towards anyone if there's enough momentum behind it.
I am Candace Owens' right tit. I am a Hated Popular Compulsive Bulletproof Ascetic Tracker Watcher Innocent Child Governor. Rex told me at the start of the game that whiteflame is scum. Furthermore, I know everyone's role and I can make everyone 1v1 in Guitar Hero to determine whether their night actions succeed or not.
I stand by my suggestion that we get a full-claim from someone just to advance the game. On second thought, we might not have enough time left for meaningful discussion of whatever information we get.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 7/20/2026 at 6:52 PM (post #186)
If someone can point me to 1 game where hated has had a specific dayphase deactivation ill reconsider. I have never seen it activate on a specific day phase. The few times have been mylo or lylo.
No precedent needed. It's obviously because either Rex or Pie thought it was better given the recent arguments about the definition of MYLO/LYLO.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 9:51 AM (post #145)
I didn't want to draw attention to it. Given that Candace Owens is almost certainly in this game, it's not a question of whether that claim is real or not, it's a question of whether it's town or not. I made Barry scum and he was the title character of that game, so I don't think we should make any assumptions based on Wylted's CC.
I think the difference there is that Barry is canonically a murderer and, per my understanding, a shitty person. Candace is the obvious hero of her cinematic universe. Possibly scum, but extremely unlikely in my opinion.
Imma laugh if Wryly flips Candace Owens’ left tit
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/20/2026 at 10:57 AM (post #166)
Behind him I am getting suspicions of Thoth, but I feel like I’m always suspicious of Thoth when he’s town. Nothing specifically just his overall attitude about. Rehashing discussions about wrylys claim and branching into bizarre theories about her baiting Candace Owens just seems like a way to keep attention focused on talking points around other people while not fully committing to a read on her.
A way to contribute something at all when I had very little behavior to work off of from anyone.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/20/2026 at 12:18 PM (post #168)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 12:38 AM (post #133)
You said in #8 that your Hated deactivates on DP3. Later, it sounded like you were saying it deactivates at MYLO/LYLO. Did you say DP3 because you figured that's when we would hit MYLO/LYLO?
No. My PM says DP3, but I’m estimating that the math says DP3 would be MYLO/LYLO
If not for the recent brouhaha over the definition of MYLO/LYLO, I would say that deactivating at DP3 is odd and could imply that MYLO/LYLO could be reached on a different day. I take it that Rex just wanted to avoid arguments over what MYLO/LYLO means.
VTL: Mikal
I don’t see the value in a claim from Kohai. If we are going to pressure a full-claim out of anyone, I would rather get it from Mikal.
Does anyone else see wylted as basically an Innocent Child for an un-CC'd claim to the main character? I'm puzzled as to why this hasn't been brought up. Did you all think that this was too obvious to merit pointing out?
There's not nearly as much for me to base reads on as I would like. Kohai's wild assumptions about game balance are NAI. Pie's Hated claim can't be safely tested. Mikal's claim-not-claim and insistence that we kill Pie strike me as scummier than anyone else.
Under most circumstances, I would call this anti-town, but I am halfway tempted to suggest we force a claim out of a random person just to advance the game. Make the iron hot by striking and whatnot.
I tried to post a like button image but idk if it came through or not
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 6:27 PM (post #111)
What joy you brought me
In times of stress
My ego boost
My time saver
My "read" sign
Oh the glory days
When a post would hit 5, 6, 7 likes
The heart leaping higher with each number
And the soul could rejoice
that success had landed
mirth was shared or shrewdness acknowledged
Then the mods came
Eyes red, truncheons bouncing in hand
With swift cruelty they stole you from me
My ego boost
My time saver
My "read" sign
I look to where you were
And see only "quote", "reply"
This minimalist nothing
Where posts stand naked, unadorned
Blank henges hulking silent on the hill
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/19/2026 at 4:29 PM (post #110)
wylted - I don't know what to make of his bullshit about my left titty joke or whether he even is Candace Owens. I feel like there's no way he didn't get that I was joking, or at least I would have said so before Thoth and Kohai and Pie seemed to entertain the notion that I might not be joking.
I never doubted that you were joking, just whether it was your joke or Rex's.
Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/19/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #100)
Originally Posted by Mikal on 7/19/2026 at 2:56 PM (post #99)
My top two scum picks for this game would have been ben and Erica so there is also that
males sense with how much conspiracy Owens has been pushing at them
Lmao is this some meta-conspiracy shit where Candace Owens accuses them of being controlled opposition?