Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

So it makes sense that given how good tailor is for getting roles, characters would be provided.

Assuming that Tailor shows scum the role card of the person they tailored.


I asked Vader and he said he could not answer that.


Scumslip?

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Mag1c's "game solved" post strikes me as a mag1c show of smoke and mirrors, like he deployed this complicated battalion of arguments in hopes you won't notice the gaps that he should know better than to make. Mag1c said he thought before this day phase that Wryly was the Cop. What with Wryly being town-confirmed and Shining being scum's ukillity JOAT, it would not surprise me if Mag1c is a scum redirective role who took Wryly's Cop check and pushed it somewhere else. Not necessarily by Redirecting Wryly, either. He could have Deflected or Bus Drove himself.


That said, I need to go over all the Sensor-related discussion with a fine-toothed comb. Or a fine-toothed sensor.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Did Shining ever claim anything? That could give us insight into what fake-claim info scum got.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I need to ask Vader an important question and will report back.

I asked whether scum would have written the Tailored PM or told Vader what to write. Vader said scum would have written it themselves. Both NK flips so far look to be in Vader's hand. Compare this to the PM whiteflame concocted for Casey in Alien Mafia, where the writing style is obviously not Lunatic's. I think this pretty much proves that scum did not use the Tailor and also that they either Ninja'd Rex or Rolecopped someone on night 1, but I talked with whiteflame a while back about how blatantly fake Casey's Tailor was in hindsight, so I guess it's possible that he is scum and was careful to forge Vader's signature.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

The presence of a tailor means mafia were almost certainly given character claims btw

Why is that?


I am Cassius Marsh's taunting call.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I am not saying I think Mag1cman is absolutely clear, by the way, just that a possible scum lynch would have been a worse choice than a definite scum.


I need to ask Vader an important question and will report back. I applogize if it’s already been answered.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I am going to Walmart to buy new headphones and will be on later tonight.


Vader and I had a failure to communicate that turned into what Bob Ross might have called a happy accident. I declared well before end-of-day yesterday that I was changing the lynch to Mag1c. He thought I meant I was only changing it if I were lynched. I know you would all probably be scumreading the ever-living shit out of me for failing to use my Governor veto after saying I would, and, in Mafia, unlike reality, a government official can be punished for failing to follow through on a promise. Thank you to Magoroth for clearing me.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

If Magic or Shining flipped town or scum, where would y’all be looking for scum based on the flip?

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Yeah sorry I am in bed on my phone without glasses and my vision is bad enough that an i looks the same as l from under a foot away

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I was on that MU game but mostly was not following. He wasn’t that active iirc

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Ah... ok. What made you decide to fake claim

Say you are scum. A correct lynch and a dayvig hit ends the fame immediately. You would fear this possibility, especially if people are sussing both of you. Therefore, you might do something wild to divert suspicion or encourage town to use only one kill, so you can at least buy yourself a night’s worth of actions in hopes they will help keep the remaining scum alive tomorrow.


Mag1c did suggest that we use my supposed dayvig kill in place of the lynch and VTNL, but he had good reason to propose that. This probably would have been a less retarded ploy on evens.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Because I was talking about Governor, which is Occasionally. The idea of fake-claiming Dayvig had yet to be born when I wrote that.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Because I had not come up with the dayvig plan yet. I ctrl-F’d Governor

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I very much doubt either is in this setup. It seems like it would make Sensor too weak.


Unless you sren’t Sensor.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I’m not sure what all this babbling over the reliability of information from your role is about. Role information is always accurste unless the role is designed to possibly be inaccurate, which you presumably would have been told, or if there’s a mod error, or if something interfered with your results. Investigative results are game mechanics.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

Thoth, were you looking for something specific? Did you find any telling information from your gambit?

Old saying: Do not wait until the iron is hot to strike, but make it hot hy striking. I didn’t have anything specific in mind. Mag1c’s responses gave me mildly scummy gutread vibes.

Thoth

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Thoth · 9 months ago

I feel confident enough to act that the scum team is Mag1c/Shining.