Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

You've VTL'd Kohai, who has fullclaimed, on the basis that your role PM incriminates him, but won't share your role PM. You're going to get lynched anyway if you don't claim.

When you put it like that, I see why I got voted out.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

If Thoth is telling the truth this still leaves us with someone who's a whole species and someone who's a specific life cycle of that species, which is weird.

You mean if Thoth is telling the truth and Kohai is also telling the truth.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

We really need to start doing verbal affirmations instead of actual votes to prevent this type of BS

Never put your finger inside the trigger guard until you are ready to fire.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I would have claimed at L-1, but I was gone for around half an hour, about 2:40 to 3:10 PM Central, and I got hammered with barely any in-between anyway.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Wouldn’t make a difference if we did. He’s been hammered. Can’t take that back.


2:13


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aydvfej6pZE

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

should be* obstinate. Although I suppose obstinate sounds like a verb too.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I think Thoth is probably telling the truth, but his attempts to keep from providing his claim by hinting at it ended up only being confusing.

But do you get why I felt that I should obstinate about full-claiming? I figured that knowing there was an Apportioner could give scum opportunities to concoct bullshit about what happened last night. I did not have any specific scenarios in mind, but I thought about it and seemed like something I should reveal when it could let town infer something important.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Hey, now that’s a believable justification.

It's also not the justification in my role PM, at least not as I understood it as a non-Alien fan.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Unfortunately. this entire sh*t show of a dayphase due to misreading of role PMs and flavor.

I think I've said as much about my role PM as I can without treading the line of copy-pasting from mod chat. When my role card flips tomorrow, I think you will understand why I ascertained what I did from it.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

No more answers from me this twilight. I get the sense that y'all still think I'm scum and claimed Apportioner to screw with your night actions somehow. You'll believe me tomorrow, whatever.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

A Facehuggers doesn’t goes against Xenomorphs

In the context of my role PM's flavor, yes it does.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

But we don't know they're scum, and Kohai isn't claiming to be "adult" xenomorphs, just xenomorphs. And would Lunatic really give you a clue to the theme split like that?

I'm thinking that scum are two specific adult Xenomorphs. You mentioned earlier that there are individual Xenomorphs that could plausibly be characters. Then there could also be Xenomorphs that are town.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

In addition to how does it work against xenomorphs, how does it implicate Kohai?

Does this really need explaining? My role ability is delaying the night-kill. The flavor implies that an adult Xenomorph is performing the night kill. Therefore, an adult Xenomorph is likely scum.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

How tf does this work against xenomorphs?

If adult Xenomorphs are scum, the flavor is that I'm stopping the night-kill.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Also, that Mafia Universe page says the ability is lost once it's extended someone's life, but my role card says nothing about that. It's irrelevant now since I'm dead.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I'm allowed to reveal? Yeah, okay then. I'm the Apportioner. Justification is that I can impregnate someone with an embryo, and an (adult?) Xenomorph will leave them alone until the "pregnancy" ends.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Youre not in a position to negotiate. Your justification also makes zero sense. So claim

No.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Also, does it specify the adult stage in the Xenomorph life cycle? That would not contradict Facehugger being in the game, any more than having Squirtle means you can’t have Blastoise (I know how to reach late millennials and early zoomers.)

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Are you sure that your role PM leaves zero chance that your character is one specific Xenomorph?

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I will full-claim if, and only if, you promise to pressure the SHIT out of Kohai if and when I die and flip town. I expect everyone to hold you accountable for this lest the scum team is you and Kohai.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

That still does not make sense. And at this point you’ve said enough where scum are going to target you anyways, so just full claim.

no u

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Wait a minute. My role card implies that adult Xenomorphs are scum. Even before considering that Vengeful Townie seems like a claim designed to keep votes off of you, how in the blue fuck did I miss that?



unvote


VTL Kohai

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I’m going to push back on this and say that you need to full claim. How do Facehuggers go against the interests of xenomorphs? That doesn’t make sense at all

I don't want to full-claim because knowing my role could give scum opportunities they should not have. Yeah, I know how scummy that sounds, but in this case it's true. It's not that the Facehuggers are going against the interests of the Xenomorphs, exactly. I know that could have been worded better, but I wasn't sure how. Let me try again.


My justification is that the facehugger interacts with another stage of the xenomorph life cycle in a certain way that causes a certain effect, and, assuming that Xenomorphs in this stage are scum, this effect goes against their interests.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Am I losing my mind or did you just change your profile picture to have a different-colored background?

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I don't think I can say much without giving away at least what category of role it is.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

So then how does the Facehugger go against the interests of Xenomorphs? Color me confused.

You n me both pal

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

Eh. Fine. I'm the Facehugger. Not a specific Facehugger, just the Facehugger in general. I'm fine saying that because I don't think anyone will guess my role from it.

I'm not suggesting that we should definitely do this because it might come at the risk of giving away too much information, but, for the sake of modpsyche, I'd be interested in seeing people claim how hard it would be to figure out their role from their character. If all y'all threw every dart you could think of at the target for days, one of you might get my role and justification eventually. Not to say it's a stupid justification, just that I don't think it's obvious a priori.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

In his defense, Lunatic said the theme split was not obvious. There's no way in hell that it's humans vs xenos.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

I was thinking that Mikal might be the chestburster. It would fit with facehugger and I think the chestburster is a shoe-in since the chestburster scene is probably the most famous part of the movie.

Thoth

Alien Mafia DP1

Thoth · a year ago

You need to claim

Eh. Fine. I'm the Facehugger. Not a specific Facehugger, just the Facehugger in general. I'm fine saying that because I don't think anyone will guess my role from it.