Vader

I don’t think we need to worry about the 3p thing, but I think it’s of note

Noted.

I think Wryly is also a 3P survivor.

I think that there behavior has been catering to the lynch at the time. If I am not mistaken (please correct me), they have been on every lynch so far this DP. Their wincon doesn’t matter as long as they survive. They haven’t been directly confrontation to anyone besides the person that was going to be the lynch at this point in time. I don’t think they are scum because I think they would’ve been more hesistant on going for Alyssa and Thoth and I don’t think that’s the case here

Not a strong read but it’s there but it’s not my primary scum read

And I could be wrong, but Casey was very noticeably inactive. I hate using that logic but it is feasible

I think that some pressure should be on Casey at this point. This seems like a kill where the scum didn’t read the entire DP and had to catch up. It also took way longer for DP to come out than usual which could mean Casey was catching up. The big reveal was Pie is a guild leader and they probably saw that and didn’t think much

I’m going to post while on the treadmill at the gym reads if I can get them off. I have a few thoughts and I’m also genuinely surprised that my protect work

Pie and Rex are town locks to me at this point in time. Magic is essentially town locked too

I had a feeling he was town but tbh the way he claimed was spotty

Im lynching Shining. The Helz flip sucks

I protected Pie last night

VTEIPACOITSWSBMBWAAIMDWEYCTR Pie

I propose we use this

Vote to evaporate into particles and completely obliterate into the stratosphere while shooting ballistic missile bombing with an AI mega droid while Eren Yeager commits the rumbling

Back from the holiday with so many pages to catch up my tl;dr is that Helz is not claiming or has a weak claim and that this DP is just spiraling

I can not keep up with the pages but I still can’t find what Helz is claiming at this point. I’d be willing to hammer if we are OK. Everytime I catch up a new 15 posts get added

This is such an overthought and the guilds are playing to their wincon and I don’t give a fuck

VTL shining

This is also just faction on faction fighting and they’re trying to manipulate town at this point

1. Hunters Guild (Leader: Choi Jong-In)

These guilds function as town factions, but they are also competing.

1. Luna’s flip who was a leader of the White Tiger Guild was town
2. if these guilds are town, and Pie is claiming the leader, then unless this game is bastard designed, he would be town

But Luna is a guild leader? How could he have recruited him? He claimed that DP1

Ok goodnight for real lol

Guild leaders are confirmed town… Unless there is a direct CC, the OP says this. Mechanically unless CC or it’s a bastard game, Pie has to be town

I’m going to bed

Because they both have to win with town and if they have scum in their guild from there recruited they lose. We’ve just gotten really lucky and hit 2 scum and guilds can afford mislynches at this stage to cement their win con they might have

I think the guild has the wincon but I really don’t know at this point.

There is 4 votes on him to give up his guild and Kohai has stated he thinks he should be a policy lynch. Either way don’t you see this at opportunistic for Pie. His wincon definetly revolves around Rex’s guild and their wincon, so he would have much more of a benefit to force a mislynch

No I think this is legitimately the case

I see no reason that to lynch Rex. This seems opportunistic and scum can so easily lynch an investigative role. This should not be a lynch option. Period

I think Pie is town, but I also think Rex is town. Lynching him here is stupid. To win as a guild you have to win with the town. My bet is Rex is in the opposite guild and Pie’s wincon is lynching him

I think you are right about Rex and we should not lynch him but I have a few things

1- How is Pie confirmed town now. Nobody counter claimed and they said they have people? Greaat. 

1. He claimed to be the guild leader, which is town confirmed via OP

2- Why would Pie constantly lie and demand information that had absolutely nothing to do with them clearing themselves?

1. Good point

3- Why would a scum Rex fake a red check? It makes zero sense in any way

1. It’s very possible it was a redirect. Shining’s role combined with our opinion could explore the possibility that he got redirected a guilty

4- Why is it good for the town to reveal who is in guilds? Pie is pushing for this and if I was scum I would be as well. Then I could kill people able to take night actions

5- Is Pie the OG guild owner? If so why did the Mech function smite? How are they verified?

I’m not lynching Rex. Lynching an un CC’d cop is terrible town play. I don’t care what he aligns with. He has to win with town no matter what

Thank you