I have to be misinterpreting him. That cannot be right.
If it is, they may not even have a Bus Driver, they could just have a fucking Lawyer.
I have to be misinterpreting him. That cannot be right.
If it is, they may not even have a Bus Driver, they could just have a fucking Lawyer.
What the.
Mikal confirmed I investigate alignment but game mechanics affect this.
I asked what he meant. Manipulation roles? Bus driving, redirection, result randomization, etc?
He said yes, unless it's just game mechanics.
I said wdym??
He said keep in mind there are multiple factions and people win with their own wincons, so that can affect my results and is not an incorrect result by design.
*rubs temples*
So #699 means either scum did not think of bus driving around the Doctor OR scum have no Bus Driver OR Banana is guilty. So if they have a Bus Driver, Banana is guilty or scum is dumb.
If they do have a Bus Driver, I don't pose a huge threat to them and Pie is the better target, so they should've used BD to NK him.
If they have no Bus Driver, too much remains unexplained. No one knew I was a Cop NP1, how did they know to redirect me from Alyssa to someone else?
There's not a justification for it, it's just an ability I have.
ehhh...
How are we saying that the only explanation for no NK is the JK then not acting on it?
Also, is it crazy to suppose that mafia could have mechanically submitted their actions incorrectly? Bus driver is notoriously complicated. Could it be that they drove Pie with someone then NK the wrong end of the bus and ended up hitting into the doctor protection?
Not buying that.
WHY do I keep being late is there something wrong with my internet?!
Mes is right. If they're the Ant King, this could explain the lack of an NK also. I need the full claim of whoever injured Casey.
wdym? The power says scum have to convert the NK into Poison, they can't do both. That's why they poisoned NP1, when they couldn't NK.
This is why it would’ve been useful if you had just used the Cop. The question is did Mikal give Miller as a fake claim?
Are you suggesting I should've used it on Rex? That wouldn't have worked, obviously.
Why doesn't it make sense? There's literally reason to believe that the Ant King and injure
So scum were given poison and injury? Come on.
Your Rex angle depends on the injury to Casey coming from scum, otherwise you have no explanation for why there was no NK. My argument is that that whole theory stalls unless I can assess the alignment of Pie's guild. I won't entertain it until Mag1c and whiteflame share their claims. If they won't share their claims, I'm forced to take them at their word that the injury came from town.
Which puts me back at square one: there was no NK, and Pie jailkept Banana.
That doesn't make them town
We can't assess that unless the Hunters share information they are not willing to share.
Shining says once per game he can redirect actions from one player onto himself. That's his power. Justification is he's a silent type with a strong desire to win. It has been pointed out this is absolute ass on all counts.
In a scum!Rex world, what explains the lack of an NK? That scum really tried to NK Pie last NP? I just don't buy it, especially if scum!Rex was in scumchat. He wouldn't advise a Pie NK.
We don't have anything on Rex that's more damning than Shining's poor claim or Banana being jailkept. I'm not VTLing Rex.
No.
Can't get past Shining's role having basically no justification. #592 I ask him to clarify with Mikal, he doesn't. "I'm silent and I want to win" does nothing to explain a 1x single-target lightning rod.
We're at a point where we're sussing Banana enough that we might be rethinking our Shining scumread, but I'm just having trouble seeing a town!Shining here. Having no take on Thoth could be towny or inept scum. Having this bad of a claim could be bastard modding or inept scum. Maybe not even inept scum, just lazy scum.
Rex did go in hard for both the Thoth and Alyssa lynches, although a bus is not impossible there. Yes, he full claimed to Lunatic in guildchat, and early.
I've asked Mikal to clarify my role, we'll see if he does.
Scum watching Mes's silenced charade
First, Wyrly (#98), were you explicitly told that you are an alignment cop. Is it possible that your role is actually a flavor cop that determines if a player's character has monster mana? The difference is very important.
The ability says I can investigate someone and get a result of guilty or innocent. Alignment Cop is my assumption from that. Alignment is not mentioned on the role card itself.
Alyssa should have checked as guilty if I can sense monster mana.
I asked Mikal days ago if 3P investigate as guilty or innocent. He said it depends on game mechanics he would not elaborate on. This is an odd response if my ability really only detects a monster smell.
Movie night, will post later. We have until 9 PM tomorrow right?
I meant suspect as in unreliable. Subject to skepticism. Untrustworthy. Although they've garnered me more than enough suspicion as well. I'm all ears if you can explain how inaccurate results will give us actionable information.
Useless information. Both my results were flat wrong. My innocent result on Alyssa could only have protected scum and my guilty result on you set off a chain of events that cost us a town member. All my results are going to be suspect at this point until we flip the Bus Driver/Redirector.
Why would u recruit Awesome if he was in ur POE?
There weren't a lot of good options. POE was Shining, Casey, with Banana and Kohai in the maybes. Had sudden doubts about Banana because of her defense of Helz. In comparison awesome's claim didn't seem that bad, the worst thing that could be said against him is just that he's been a lazy player. Mes could've been in your guild, and I thought he might reject an invite out of disdain. whiteflame could be in your guild and probably is, and anyway didn't trust him. There was no reason to recruit Vader, he needed to stay free and able to use his action for as long as he's alive. Anyway, doesn't really matter now.
Actually, if we're operating under the assumption of a bus driver the doctor creates no obstacle. Scum could just switcheroo their NK target and some rando who would never be protected and then target the rando with the NK. This makes the Banana being jailkept scenario while NKing much more likely imo.
Just got confirmation from Mikal that this would work.
Actually, if we're operating under the assumption of a bus driver the doctor creates no obstacle. Scum could just switcheroo their NK target and some rando who would never be protected and then target the rando with the NK. This makes the Banana being jailkept scenario while NKing much more likely imo.
Seems like this would depend on order of operations, and since it would unbalance the game to have a Doctor be pretty much useless even after scum lose their Strongman, wouldn't the mod make his order of operations preclude a maneuver like this?
Now comes the time when I'd like to know more about this injury-came-from-town business.
I'm gonna ask everyone here a question, similar to the one I asked DP1. Let's say that Shining and Banana are both town. What does this mean for you? Who is scum in this scenario?
My POE just expands to the next circle in the POE bulls-eye. awesome5000, Kohai, you.
After that, it would expand to the next circle. Mag1cman, Rex, whiteflame.
Yeah, my issue at present is still that Banana doesn't seem like a good NK target and it's unlikely scum would have tried to NK Pie.