Wryly

Well I’m adulting. Probably never going to full claim. You guys can pretty much go fuck yourselves there.

Yes I lied about rejecting the guild invite. I worked to angle myself as a mid range town read for kill insulation and prior to game starting set myself the goals of open wolfing and trying to invert the game if I got to LYLO.

I have not trusted Rex from the start of my guild situation because they claimed a hard killer function.

I can simply say I will be around in a few hours if you guys want to sort me and I have been on the right side of flips so far. Your community uses nonsense mech as a crutch so feel free to kill me if you can’t deal with a full claim or if you want to speed hammer before I can respond.

Towns honestly going full retard today with an outed fake claim imo.

Oh come on Helz. If you're actually town and scum just bus drove Pie because he's a fearkill target then we can all avoid a mislynch here if you just increase credibility through transparency. Otherwise this just looks scummy.

I can’t believe yall didn’t force Helz to full claim in the guild. That’s the first thing I did with all my recruits

Luna was more lenient.

I can’t recruit you if you’re the guild leader

Rex is leader but you don't have to recruit me. My life expectancy just shortened greatly.

I'm interested in Wyrly's NP1 innocent on Alyssa. If she wasn't in the guild yet, why would we think she had been redirected?

Bus Driver would explain it.

I figured it was you lol.

You always say "I figured" after new developments, you rascal. Although in this case, while I did try to be less transparent than Helz, I think it was still guessable. I was mostly relying on people thinking I probably wouldn't be a prime recruit target.

What's the VC?

You need to claim now mang.

Lol. Surpriiiiiiise.

Yes, I told the guild who I'd be targeting NP2. Figured it was a good way to test if the guild chat was pure.

I know that tribalism sucks and everything, and I do miss absolute town solidarity, but this is prime fucking entertainment. Ruses upon ruses! Plot developments upon plot developments!

@Mag1c was Pie the original Choi Jong-In?

Well shit the clusterfuck continued in my absence. I'm laughing hard that Banana spends over a page arguing with Helz and then whiteflame comes and simply restates her arguments and Helz is like "oh I see that's fair."

then unless we are dealing with a death tailor then Wylted’s flip will give the full reveal. If Wylted flips guild leader then pie is outted.

Heh, durr. I didn't even consider this. My neurons are being really lazy.

That was a joke. If wylted was telling the truth about his guild having a lynchproof ability, then Alyssa's willingness to claim lynchproof always struck me as an indicator that the Hunters' chat could be secure. If scum was in there I figured they'd advise her to maybe hold off on claiming Widely Admired for fear a Hunter might soft-CC it (which did happen). I think I might be okay with the Hunters not revealing.

My only fear is that Pie is just a regular guild member, but his mates are so confident he's town that they're willing to lie (or confirm through silence) that he's the guild leader, which leaves a margin for error that he is scum but he's just successfully fooled them. This seems like a slim chance though.

wouldn’t the real hunters guild immediately call this out if it was a lie

"I want it in explicit writing!"

Unvote

Not drawing any conclusions until Pie's guildmates confirm he was the leader all along -- and whether they would just lie for him is also something I'll have to consider -- but if everything looks good, yeah, the implications are clear.

Alright, so here’s how I’m confirmable. I am Choi Jong In. The leader of the Hunter Guild. Wylted was in my guild, and he’s unfortunately deceased. However, there are still 2 more people in there who can vouch for me that I recruited them.

Absolute cinema.

Let's hear those vouches.

If I confirm myself as town, yall swear to listen to everything I say?

Swearsie realsies

You see what I have to deal with every time lol

Hey hey hey. Don't you roll your eyes and meet his gaze! He doesn't even go to our school!

Oh wow a standoff who could have predicted that

Somebody has to fellate me. I'd rather it not be me, but it must be done.

Lmao.

I don't think WF is 3P, but I figured I'd ask him myself.

For what it's worth, I don't think Pie is pulling an ego move. There's solid town motivation to wanting Rex to move first.

He wants one word. Are we this held up over a one-word answer when we can all guess what the word will be?

Nah I'd rather win the game. Have a lot of respect for Pie, just don't like him stalling the game just because he wants Rex to blink first.

And no, we're not lynching Pie. I think Shining is the likely scum here, Pie is only on the table if he doesn't prove his innocence.

Mes is firmly town and an excellent player imo, I'd give him a lot more props if he fellated himself less. Clearly he thinks WF is 3P, unless I'm misreading this.

"All this talk of me being guilty is pointless if I'm innocent." Excellent argument. I wonder why defendants don't use that at murder trials.

There’s a lot more to talk about like what your thoughts are on Shining’s claim

As I said, completely sus. The role is dodgy af, can't be verified, and the justification makes no sense. Him being the third player in scumchat is very believable in light of Thoth and Alyssa's plays. He's the lynch here. Unless you cannot satisfactorily prove your innocence, in which case I'll be in a more difficult spot.

Deadass there's a 80% or greater chance that the day kill was not written into the Ant King's role pm and Mikal made it up after Alyssa died to help the Mafia not get completely steamrolled. Stop stressing.

Seems like unsupported guesswork. Ties in well with the actual events of the show, strikes me as something Mikal could have planned from the outset.

Skep = RexFavilla = REF

Supa = Vader

David = Kohai

Earth = Shining

Castin = Wryly

For future reference.

I wouldn't have thought the Ant King could KO the other guild leader in the middle of a day phase, so given that I don't know what else is in the Ant King's arsenal, I'm just not inclined to give Pie any extra time since he's a known stall-and-striker. This could be my Pieanoia, granted. Maybe I'm being too pieanoid here. Idk.

I don't understand this weird need to get it in writing when we all know he probably told his mate, just move on. But I'mma stop wasting posts on this since it's obviously a stalemate for now.

As I suspected, Rex ain't online and I have to wait til tonight or later for my juicy, juicy data.

Y'all are really cock blocking my instant gratification here. Literally blocking my instant gratification with your cocks. Mm-hmm.

Dude, getting a red check on you and still making demands like you're not the one with evidence against him.

If Kohai or Shining or someone were like "yeah I'll prove my innocence later let's just move on" no one would let them get away with that shit lol.

So we have team "just give Pie what he wants" and team "just give Rex what he wants". I'm now firmly on the second team out of pure counter-culture spite lol. Everyone always sides with Pie and lets him get away with shit they'd never let anyone else get a pass on, like remora latching onto a great white.

Love you though Pie. ❤️ May your eyes stay black and your teeth sharp.

I want it in explicit writing first

Lol come on this is just a power trip at this point. I don't want to wait around for Rex to come back online, and even once he does we're just gonna waste time with a pointless macho standoff. For once in your mafia career, just put your cards down first! It won't kill you lol.