The rest of the guild had already discussed that the inno check was inconclusive. We were right.
The rest of the guild had already discussed that the inno check was inconclusive. We were right.
Lol love the uno reverse. Ask yourself why Thoth kept saying he was innocent in twilight.
I had assumed it was to potentially manipulate NP1 actions. By hammering when he did, Helz cut the day phase short dramatically and set himself up as twilight interviewer.
When I first said that I had investigated Alyssa in guildchat, you were the only one who noticed my saying it. You said "Oh?" but then had zero follow-up questions, you simply moved on. Why?
It actually seemed to me like you were just soft-balling questions into Thoth so he could seed all the misinformation he wanted to.
Fine. If you have such a hard-on for taking our time and grilling even people we know we're going to lynch, why did you cut DP1 short by two days?
I'd really like to know what exactly our meta should be instead of demanding a claim before lynching. Just quick-lynch people and if we accidentally mislynch the Doctor, oh well?
If he skates for another day phase, that's partly on you for not doing all you could to convince us you're clean.
There are no pertinent questions other than the other half of your role and what night action you took. You claimed Yoo Jinho but that's inconclusive; scum were given fake claims. You claimed Odd Night Tracker but tracked no one. You claimed you used one other action which you will not disclose. None of this is enough to overturn our suspicion and behaviorally you're scummy as hell right now. What other relevant questions did you expect us to ask you?
Vote Count
Helz (6/7) Mestari, Rex, Pie, Mag1c, Kohai, Wryly
Shining (2/7) Helz, Vader
Awesome (1/7) Shining
Like the refusal to full claim is driving me up a wall but it's not just that it's the complete refusal to understand why we're even asking you to
Okay I am starting to lose it here buddy. How many times do I have to explain why you're under pressure here. I told the guild chat who I was investigating to see if my result would be manipulated. My result was manipulated. That implicates someone in our guild. Rex has full claimed. You refuse to. How many times. How many times.
VTL Helz
*worth your life
Do tell.
There is no benefit to town in you withholding information at this point.
Far from the worst thing people have said to Pie lol. You should check out the Legend of Zelda game sometime.
Can't find anything on Yoo Jinho and goggles. Give me the scoop.
What did REF hide about his role?
Nothing, afaik. What he said in guildchat was that all investigative results targetting him are randomized. I guess this could be what Helz is calling Miller, but I have no idea.
State your role justification and the specifics of the tracking function.
You're refusing to claim under reasonable suspicion citing only "uR mEtA iS DuMb", doubling back on WIFOM talking points instead of providing solid data that could clear you. Like I said in guild chat, this is coming off like cornered scum who's not used to being nailed by mechanics analysis.
Town needs a full claim, not a synopsis, buddy.
I’d be frustrated too. Your entire team plan blown up by Pie and Wylted lol. If he doesn’t want to claim, that’s fine. We will treat him just like how we have treated everyone else. He probably still thinks I’m bluffing, which I’m not. It’s anti-town for him to not claim.
Anyone who investigated as guilty to me but flipped innocent would have given a rat away and ultimately led to the same situation we have now, so as long as I telegraphed my target to the guild, I like to think it would have caught scum regardless. I do credit you for making the Ant King draw out a false guild leader, though.
I think helz / shinning is gg
Still leaves 3P.
After a back-and-forth with Helz in guildchat it seems clear he's not going to claim in the DP. I'm pretty frustrated, so yeah, consider my vote on Helz. In the interests of not putting him at L-1 just yet I'm not VTLing. I'd like to discuss Shining a bit more. Still haven't decided if they're both scum, one scum and one 3P, one scumchat scum and one Lost Wolf, or what.
Mostly for two wrong results and for your paranoia about Thoth being tailored which I saw as maybe an attempt to save Alyssa. But you passed the vibes check mostly.
Thankfully, mafia is democracy manifest. Which says something about democracy.
Can't believe you were still sussing me when I had to practically be held back from coming clean after Pie's innocence confirmation. And I was the one arguing with Helz in guildchat and being like "Helz put yourself in their shoes..." and "nah Banana is right..."
You - you're not my real guild dad!
The fuck was I being scumread for? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
Since the cop and doc are already outted, let's mass claim. I've softed multiple times so I'll go last.
Let's fucking gooooo
What outted fake claim
He could be referring to Rex claiming Cop.
Luna declined so I never claimed. And I have concerns about Wryly. They claimed an inno result on Alyssa and then a guilty on Pie. Their inno on Alyssa was before they were recruited. Something town should consider.
Wow lol. Insert Biden "c'mon, man!" gif.
After Thoth's scumslip, Alyssa was the obvious choice for them to bus drive. Or to Lawyer, on the off chance they have a Lawyer and a Framer/Redirector. Bus Driver is the simpler explanation though. Maybe they bus drove Alyssa and Pie NP1 as well, and simply continued with Pie NP2; I don't know. I'm willing to entertain that possibility if you'll make the good faith gesture of claiming.