Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

All right, big miscommunication there. I actually thought Bulletproof always had to be activated, like a Commuter. It didn't occur to me that it was just like an extra life. Guess I'm still green. In that case, there could have only been one death NP2 because Thoth shot Mago, but scum tried to kill you and failed. So you're saying it never occurred to you to say that in his defense because you were still under this misconception that Savant had told you your BP had to be activated first?

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Maybe it's just because I play too many videogames and am too entrenched in that terminology, but I understand passive abilities to be ones you don't have to activate. As in, you don't have to tell the mod "use my Bulletproof tonight." For instance, I could've gained a passive Perceptive ability in Ruyi Zhuan that would've let me see who visited me each night.


If in mafia "passive" just means it's not a power you actively use on others, then what could a non-passive Bulletproof possibly be?

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

If you meant passive as in it passively protects you for one night phase, that makes a lot more sense. But then I'm confused how you could have thought Savant was telling you it wasn't passive?

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Okay, maybe a miscommunication about what a passive is then. I understand it to be an ability that doesn't need to be activated and is always in effect.

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

There was a 1x Bulletproof in Microbiology mafia, which you also played in, and you even put a 1x Bulletproof in Atypical mafia, which you moderated.

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

A passive Bulletproof would be ridiculously OP, similar to a passive town Commuter, and the only thing that was making me believe your JOAT was that all your roles were, at least, 1x shots. Now you're expecting me to believe Savant put an unkillable townie in the setup.

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Like whiteflame has incentive to lynch me here and even he would back me up that this is normal phrasing even for a passive role.


I'll tag him and ask then

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Bro im retarded. It is passive. I double checked my PM and he initially said i had to lock in in then changed it later to say nvm its passive lmao


My pfp is an accurate representation of my current attitude

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

And if it was listed as 1x, why Savant would then tell you it was a passive, contrary to his own original role PM

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

I'm just struggling to understand why you would think something listed as 1x was passive

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

That was basically my PM almost verbatim lmao.

And bulletproof is ALWAYS passive. I am making that assumption based on every bullet proof I have ever seen in existence. If it was phrased as a 1x self doctor or something I would assume it wasn't passive.


Pie was a 1x Bulletproof in Madoka Magic mafia.


So to be clear, it was not phrased as 1x Bulletproof in your role PM?

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

As for my nonsensical gobbledygook posts: When you first character claimed, I noticed that the words "Luthen Rael" were in a slightly brighter font than the other text of your post, which usually indicates text that has been copied and pasted.


I tested to see if it does this if you are merely copying and pasting text from elsewhere on DebateCraft, like from a message (your role PM) to a post. It does not. It seems the text needs to be non-native.

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Nah I'm still unclear. I would expect your role PM to read like this:


You are Luthen Rael. A spymaster and early architect of the Rebellion, you have a wide array of skills that make you an asset to your cause. Therefore, you are the JOAT, and you have the following abilities: 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof.


If it was worded that way, I don't see how you could think your Bulletproof was passive.

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Blah blah blah text here text here


But I always laughed that my mage (or my warlock - long story) is the strongest spellcaster in the world of wowcraft


blah blah blah text here It does yes


You are Wendy, from “Alien Earth”

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Like I would've expected it to read 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Bulletproof. Not 1x Watcher, 1x Roleblocker, Bulletproof

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Yo can you explain what your PM said to make you think your BP was passive

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Waive the NK, wait for Thoth to kill someone, claim you roleblocked that person, now there's an explanation for why you can't verify your roleblocker and you frame Thoth


As to the second, to farm towncred for being initially reasonable before pressing the mislynch

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Totally forgot about whatever gift Rex was able to give away. No one claimed it

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

Lunatic though seems likelier to have framed Thoth so he had a pretense for why his Roleblocker was never verified

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

If Skipper and Kohai were scum and knew nothing about the theme I could see them asking if Luthen was in the game. Harder for me to see whiteflame asking if Bix was in the game

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

It would be so weird for Savant to give town an Inventor and JOAT and so fucking weird for Lunatic to fake claim JOAT and so fucking weird for Luthen to not be in the game, Lunatic is a paradox

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

I'm here


Like mafia is pretty fun I must reluctantly admit, but there are some days when the last thing I want to do when I'm done for the day is give my brain another workout

Wryly

Andor Mafia DP4

Wryly · 8 months ago

At the same time, I have to wonder why scum!whiteflame would NK Banana over me last night phase. She apparently townread him enough to use her Petitioner on him DP3, while I was openly sussing him.


Could be he just thought I was a worse decision-maker. He got me to mislynch at LYLO in Chicago Bears mafia.