Wryly

anyway, scum please kill me tonight.

I don’t think I’ve ever had to answer so many questions where it seems 80% of the time the person asking the question already “knows” the answer and is just asking the question for the sake of asking it.

I wonder how many scum were trolling me today, if any. I guess if I make it past today, this day should be very productive considering what has transpired.

But I'm just starting to have fun after everyone was such a downer about the theme complexity, and you're like, the most interesting player rn

the amount of time the word ret*rd has been used is complete news to me

MU censors and warns/bans people for it

We chill, we fam, we use da 1000 kiloton invective in da game at each other when we wanna

So... let me get this straight. Your aim was to confirm others by night actions corresponding to their claims this DP. You claimed Watcher, a role you say you couldn't use this DP (I believe you mentioned it was your even night role), which wouldn't have been confirmable at all, and now you're saying that you are completely unconfirmable because you don't have enough favor to use any of your roles? Even if I didn't like the method you were going for, I at least understood that the aim was to be pretty equal opportunity about giving everyone a chance to prove themselves, but were you really banking on receiving two favor tonight so that you could do something to demonstrate your role?

If you couldn't tell by his massclaim suggestion, he's an optimist lol

I guess I could be misreading this wildly and he's scum

But you remember him from the Chicago Bears game. He OMGUSed a lot, took the game really personally, played pretty impulsively, at one point told me to ignore claims and strategy and just go by my feelings (which he said are what lead his playstyle), and claimed that mechanics don't matter at all only behavior. I hammered him DP4. He was town.

p#351 if you were vengeful you would not mind getting lynched

like wtf

Only unlocks at higher favor

Ah. tyvm

i don't think town watchers are commonplace because they are usually seen as broken

scum watchers make more sense to me but idk site meta that well

Broken how?

I've been town Watcher a couple of times before.

is there a way to make replies automatically quote the post?

I wish, but hasn't been coded yet. Savant's got a lot on his plate.

VTNL btw

We have four votes currently on Awesome. Is there any reason you all are on him besides a lack of activity?

Nope.

Unvote

Fine with VTNL

Three, wow

I'm cool with a VTNL as well

I'm cool with a VTNL as well

I'm cool with a VTNL as well

*to be RM

It seems he sussed most of the people who sussed him (Pie, Wryly, Luna and Thoth)

I don't remember sussing him? I mean, questioning his suggestions, sure

Are you actually RM? Because you seem like you are RM lol.

Way too chill on discord to me RM lol

I guess I'm okay with an inactivity vote on awesome5000. The only other vote we might pull off rn is Mago and I think he's town.

VTL awesome5000

So, since I left off last night, you dumped your entire purse out for scum, fake claimed a Framer, and then revealed you're Vengeful. Bro. I had been thinking scum would want to keep you around as a mislynch target for later but now they'll want to get you out of the way before you gain too much favor or make it to MYLO/LYLO.

I actually don't think you're scum. I didn't think you were for the entire Bears game, where you acted similarly. Then at endgame I fumbled and second-guessed myself, bought into the "if it walks like a duck" logic, mislynched you and lost at LYLO.

I really just wish you hadn't given scum your entire role card.

I want to vote Wryly and Thoth because they’re my top scumreads, but I really don’t want Lunatic to get away with this if he is scum. Almost want to vote him out of principle.

Why am I one of your top scumreads? Just because I said you being a baffling drama queen is NAI?

Busy and still playing thread catch up

But why wouldn't scum just claim the fake roles Rex gave them, which they know are safe?

Not to mention the point someone (whiteflame?) brought up that many of our verifiable roles have not been unlocked yet.

I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but I strongly, strongly believe we should mass claim our abilities immediately. We should find out all information about this setup as soon as possible. In a hidden setup scum can just claim whatever they want and it’s possible we will have “weird” night actions that make no sense and stump us. Please, for the benefit of my sanity, at least consider this.

I have had games where the scum claimed absurd shit and got away with it because the night actions were so confusing and SO MUCH shit was happening every night that made people susceptible to believinf pretty much anything. If we mass claim, we at the very least level the playing field and know what is possible and what isn’t.

and, even if we deny ourselves the use of our abilities by doing so, who cares? 10v2 is pretty balanced (assuming there are no Serial Killers). at the end of the day reads and discussion are the most important things in the game, not roles.

I just don't see a world where mass claiming "levels the playing field". It will expose all of our information to scum so that they can choreograph their moves perfectly, while revealing nothing to us except the fake characters and fake roles that the moderator provided scum with. Unless there are three scum, in which case we would expose a measly 1 fake claim that we could maybe recognize for what it is. The only benefit I see is a slim chance that scum were given fake claims we could disprove through verification. That is just not enough to offset the steep disadvantage of completely wiping the fog of war away for scum.

I think Magoroth's point was that pushing everyone to claim would limit night actions, but even if that's true (and I question that since someone could just claim their Even Night role or something they don't yet have access to), I don't think it's worth the cost of giving scum so much information so early.

Must be having a brain fart, but limit night actions how?

I noticed you asked for reads earlier from everyone else and I think I just got left out of the pinged set. Once I'm done at work, I'll go back through the DP and derive a set myself.

Yeah left a few people out by oversight, danke

No idea why I stick out to you in particular honestly, most of the people on the list haven't done much

Anyway, kindly eat me you bovine asinine concubine

Forgot to @ you in that last question ^

How would you hand out favor right now if you were the Emperor

ping for reads

Since we're kind of just spinning our wheels and there's no point softing and not much to go on, I think our only way forward DP1 is just to find a way to generate as much behavioral data as possible while starving scum of role information to base an NK on.

I feel like Wryly is having trouble producing thoughts.

Compared to what? "Let's out the Empress"? Or "Let's not flavor claim because it would make scum feel bad"? Or "let's mass claim even though scum were provided with full fake claims"? Or "let me just out myself as a Watcher"? Idk, maybe there's an argument to be made that terrible ideas are better than no ideas, if that's what you're going for.