I think Mago is solid town
Agree. Both our characters are placed in the harem by the Empress Dowager so it makes sense that his Watcher works the same as my Tracker, and I received a similar message to his NP1: your Tracker ability has lost its power.
Have you both full claimed yet?
I'm Consort Shu, a spy the Empress Dowager sends into the Emperor's harem -- though she simps for him like a newb -- and my powers are thus spy-oriented but Empress Dowager contingent. So I get an odd night Tracker, but only if the Empress Dowager is alive do I receive any results from it, and I get a 1x even night Cypher at Noble Consort level that enables communication between the Emperor and Empress Dowager.
Since my roles were made useless by Mikal's death, my game plan -- until Mago started wagging his tongue -- was to out myself as the Tracker but withhold that my powers were defunct in hopes that scum would waste some redirectors/roleblockers or an NK on me (had no real hopes I'd gain enough favor for my Perceptive to ever activate). But first Magoroth started telling everyfuckingbody that his Watcher had lost its power with Mikal's NK and then Shining reported a power identical to mine, so. Fuck it. I guess I spill my purse and now scum knows two of our investigatives were neutered.
If Rex did give both me and Shining such similar passives, I'mma be mad. That's all our investigatives outed now. Really hate the way this is going.
Hello brochachos
Didnt you townread Mago at the end of the previous DP?
Yep but I always doubt my behavioral reads.
Well well well
Was wondering when you would catch up to this lol
I just don't see the point of confirming Mago's roles if Shining's scum. Yes, it was easy to do, but what's the point?
Favor and town cred? They poison Mago, Shining town confirms him, and then Mago dies from poison, flips town, confirms Shining's rolecop results, and Shining ends up looking pretty good.
But I have lingering questions: why does scum Shining say the Shadow Poisoner visited him, and why does scum Shining fake claim a passive like that when Rex handed scum fake role cards that were perfectly safe to claim? Also, why did scum poison Mago at all? He's an easy mislynch target, why waste poison on him.
Thats interesting... Mine was called Careful. What is the wording for your passive?
It says I see whatever roles target me on a given night phase. If you're saying you saw a visit from a Shadow Poisoner -- which sounds like a role -- that's pretty much the exact same thing.
VTL Shining
I have a passive called Perceptive that activates at Imperial Noble level. It lets me see which roles target me in a given night. This sounds identical to the passive Shining is describing, although he's claiming he had immediate access to it in addition to Rolecop, which would mean he would have to have started with high favor or be the Empress.
We also have an explosion of claimed town investigatives (Watcher, Tracker, Cop, Rolecop) which now makes me suspect Rolecop is either a fake claim or a scum power being straight claimed for favor.
In addition we have the inconsistency that Shining is claiming a visit from a Shadow Poisoner but Magoroth is the one who claims he was poisoned.
I don't claim to know why Shining would town confirm Mago as scum but I also don't see a world where Rex hands out two of the same role.
I do believe Wylted is Town because again why the hell all the weird stuff
Glad you know what it's like to play mafia with you, was afraid you didn't
Yeah but it was vibes based. He was playing it almost a little *too* perfectly with Mago, while Mago was playing so badly I was leaning town.
Why did you track Mikal?
Sorry to make you repeat yourself, busy and hadn't fully caught up yet.
Tough decision because I had no idea who even had enough favor to be worth tracking, plus Mago had run around in circles waving a flaming torch and accusing everyone and their grandmother, so there were a wide range of possible scum who would be on their guard, but Mikal had said several of his roles overlap with Mago's and I decided to investigate that soft CC, and I figured Mago would probably be mislynched before the end of the game so why waste an investigative on him.
Okay, I'll just out this. I have a passive that allows me to tell who visited me during the night, and something called a shadow posioner did.
What is the passive called
Would very much like to know this
Seek ophthalmology immediately my guy
Okay, I'll just out this. I have a passive that allows me to tell who visited me during the night, and something called a shadow posioner did.
What is the passive called
Wryly claims she Tracked Mikal to Wylted, though it's unclear what Mikal did. If Wylted's right about what Vader told him (I haven't check in with him yet), then the High Adjudicator couldn't have been used since it wouldn't have been a visit.
Not sure what you mean by this btw, I thought it was only the Emperor's favor handouts that don't count as visits.
I don’t recall this game. Which one? Also, if Wylted is telling the truth, there has to be a Cop in the game as well. Bottomline, you, Wylted, Mago, and Shining are in a soft CC.
Idk bro I just sat down to eat for the first time today. Barry mafia? Though I think I was a 1x Tracker 1x Watcher so I guess it doesn't count.
But I totally forgot about Wylted's Miller, you're right. Rolecop x Cop x Watcher x Tracker is positively loaded. Hmm.
I’m lynchproof when I’m town
I literally mislynched you in the first game we ever played together
Very feasible and tbh it might be what happened but I am not sure. It could be the only way to go about this. I was originally thinking mafia can counter favor by removing favor but now I don't know. Either way now that opens the door.
I did not give someone more than 2 favor points
If Mikal did visit Wylted, and my tracking was not interfered with, then he could only have jailkept him or transferred favor, since his Rolestopper would have stopped anyone else from stealing favor from Wylted.
So assuming Wylted is telling the truth (I'm inclined to believe he is, considering my results), either Mikal jailkept Wylted and the stolen favor is down to scumfuckery, or Mikal did use his High Adjudicator on Wylted.
Which raises the question of why Mikal would choose to transfer favor from Wylted in particular and who he transferred it to, since Magoroth reports no favor change. Probably better for us not to know, in the case of the latter.
I've played games where there was a Tracker and a Watcher, so it didn't seem like an impossibility to me. Also, the favor mechanic means that Rex can hand out a lot of goodies without the game becoming imbalanced -- a lot of these roles may never activate.
At this point, I do believe Mago is town. The only reason I could see Shining confirming him as scum is to curry favor or to keep him in the game as a mislynch target in the event Shining himself gets lynched (whereupon his investigative results would become fruit of the poisoned tree and Mago would become a prime suspect). The second is a stretch and the first requires there to be no town cop in the game and for Shining to have received Rolecop as a fake claim, which is a possibility, but for now I'm willing to believe Shining.
If Watcher was even night, I don't know why he was told it lost power.
I was told my ability lost its power.
This is a normal mod message informing you that your odd-night power will become unavailable until the next odd night, assuming you still have enough favor.
Alright, apparently taking the time to make and eat dinner was a mistake. Didn't realize we'd be 5 pages deep this soon. I'm catching up.
Tell me about it.
Yeah apparently mago gets a free pass to lie about random shit as town so I get one also
What chaos El Mago unleashes
I don't know who took it but looking at Mikals flip and his townread of mago and me coming in near the end to attempt to push that lynch, I think Mikal may have taken my favor. I wasn't alerted to who took it but I thought maybe it was Mago seeing as how I was on his lynch and gunning for him
Okay so post #4 was bullshit?
I tracked Mikal last night and saw him visit Wylted, so assuming I wasn't redirected, there is a possibility Mikal just used his High Adjudicator on Wylted to transfer favor, though I don't know why he would do that, and I don't think Wylted would be informed of who the favor was transferred to -- and Magoroth says he didn't receive any notification of a favor increase in any case.
Literally the first time I've gotten to sit down all day and we have 4 pages already. Oy.
Why did you think it was Magoroth who stole your favor?
Exactly. We just ignore and ghost them until they break and drunk dial us at 2 AM
Vtnl it is, what a waste of 500 posts lol
Definitely not ideal, but I honestly don't scumread Mago and I don't see many good alternates
THERE ARE FOUR LIIIIIIIIGHTS
VTNL 1/6 - Mikal, Magoroth, Whiteflame, Wryly
Eh?
