Either way, feel better soon.
Either way, feel better soon.
Seems like we're just sleepwalking into a Shining lynch here, but I always sus Shining so I'm not gonna fight it much. Since scum were not given fake claims I'm guessing they'll be cautious and pick minor characters to claim, and Dani is a supporting character.
Grazie for the explanation there
Got a town lean on Kohai and Banana. 1x Popular sounds like something that could be thrown to a scum JOAT or something, but Jamie Tartt is very likely in the game, and scum were given no fake claims.
Ascetic fits for Rojas. Shining is null for me.
Will post some more after I unwind with mindless violence.
Simulated violence, that is.
For all you know.
Both times when I had Whiteflame do this in his setups, the hidden negative utility was the person informed about it. I may have done this in one of my own games, idr.
No idea what this means btw.
lol imagine listening to Matt Walsh
I've seen people treat Hated and Popular as quasi-SOP. Hated as a warning to town, Popular as, I dunno, a "heads up I have a verifiable role."
Unvote
I'm in footballers
Never heard of Popular being something that could be used up, but it's worth it to role confirm her.
VTL Banana
This show is golden, absolutely golden. I'm one of the people Luna promised some activity slack to, I got a lot going on. However I expect I'll still make more than a few posts a day because I apparently can't stay away from this game even though I never win.
Anyway VTL whiteflame for having a pfp I mistook for enchanted rapiers. Literally just make it a white flame or this dog I saw on TikTok and immediately thought of you
I shouldn't sign up because I'm so busy but fuck it
/in
Noted. Didn't realize at the time that Cop guaranteed Lawyer though.
Yeah Lawyer definitely drifted off my radar there at the end, guess it was a casualty of my life distractions. Sorry, town.
I have a lot to do today coordinating with hospice and working on this 10 mile ramp, so I don't think there's any point dragging this out further. Let's move on to the next game.
My lingering doubts are that Pie said there was no chance the Double Doink wasn't in the game, the question of if and how Rex was tailored remains unresolved, Sensor is listed as rare on MU, and I'm suspicious I would have made it to endgame if my Cop results could be relied upon. whiteflame being alive means scum never even tried to take a shot at me. The Thoth NK still doesn't make sense to me from a scum!Magoroth perspective, nor does Magoroth's unnecessary VTL of Shining. I also expected scum to NK whiteflame before now.
However, none of these are enough to overturn the case against Magoroth imo. His argument is that whiteflame copped innocent because he's a Redirector, meaning Vader put a Ninja in to directly counterbalance Tracker but no Godfather to directly counterbalance Cop, and nothing at all to counterbalance Sensor. No protective roles, not even a Hunter or Bomb or Martyr, is something I can't accept, and that plus three investigatives just tips the setup into the realm of disbelief. Magoroth's arguments have amounted to a lot of wild surmise, emotional plays, wifom, informational flip-flopping, and posturing (which has all been entertaining and he should definitely keep playing with us).
VTL Magoroth
whiteflame, if you flip scum, I don't think there's any way I could have justified voting against you based on the available data, so gg.
Another batch of Wylted quotes as a peace offering for my inactivity.
Wylted: RM is a dick and We need dicks. The answer is yes. He's a dick. We have 3 types of people on this site. 1. We have assholes that shit on everybody. They Shit on pussies and dicks. These can be considered the mods or the committed trolls and maybe a few others. Mostly though they are mods and religious forum trolls who for some reason sometimes venture out of the religion forum. 2. We have pussies. If you are reading this, this is probably you. The pussies tend to get fucked, by the dicks and shit on by the assholes. This is your most common Dart user, and I unfortunately can not name names for fear of breaking the rules here and being banned. 3. Then you have the dicks. Sure they fuck you pussies. It's true that they also get shit on by assholes, but sometimes, dicks fuck assholes. RM is a dick. We need him to fuck the mods who are assholes. I know. You pussies don't like dicks, because they fuck you. However without the dicks occasionally fucking the assholes, than assholes would just shit all over everything. BOTTOM LINE...... TIME TO FUCK SOME ASSHOLES. VOTE RM FOR PRESIDENT
^ Once upon a time we did a thing called site presidential races and they were always, without exception, a hot mess.
Wylted-Lashwnda: Any dumb fuck can write a article about any damn thing. I don't have time to read every fuckin article in the world, I'm a busy woman. So I look at what an article is about. This article is about how there's no such thing as race. I knows a nigga when I sees one. I knows a honky when I sees one. I knows an Asian when I see one, I knows an Indian (dot) when I sees one, and I knows an Indian (feather) when I sees one. You know who can also pull off this seemingly impossible feat of discernment? Darrell, the crackhead on the corner. You can sit down with your little ole 23-and-me test and I can sit with Darrell and ask him what race every damn person on the street is. I bet he'd get real close to 100%. The whole idea is straight-up retarded, and I know honkies can twist themselves into pretzels when they really wanna believe some retarded shit. I'm not interested in watchin some cracka twist, it's a waste of my time. If believing retarded shit is what it takes to make me '21st century' then I'll go get my nails done. Me and the Vietnamese will hang out in the 16th century, not look at each other talkin about some ole meat-sleeve bullshit . Y'all sound like some kinda serial killer.
I apologize that my obligations have made this DP slow going.
Would this be an accurate summary:
whiteflame's arguments: He was copped innocent, Godfathers are mechanically impossible for the POE at this point, he is the only protective role in the game, the conditions for him being scum are very narrow while the conditions for Magoroth being scum are quite roomy, three investigators is unlikely, and he had no reason to NK Kohai.
Magoroth's arguments: He had no reason to NK Thoth, he had no idea what Sensor even was honestly, he is like totally not scum swearsy realsies, whiteflame has not even sworn swearsy realsies, whiteflame's read of Magoroth (behaviorally town, mechanically scum) had nuance and nuance is sus, the setup makes total sense because town were just given extra offense instead of any defense, whiteflame has to be a Redirector, Bleeder + Bodyguard doesn't make sense (reason unspecified), there is no such thing as "scum conditions being too narrow to be plausible" lol what rot, mechanics don't matter anyway only behavior, and I should just like ignore claims and vibe, just vibe, follow the vibes.
blame that on poor communication with the host. I wasn’t sure which questions to ask, nor how to interpret the answers I was given.
so basically I was told results I get are 100% reliable. Then I asked the host if its possible to see 1 scum on the lynch when in fact there were 0 or 2 and he at first gave me the first answer he gave me at start. then we got into “you are immune to manipulation” and “you are affected by Miller and Godfather”.
obviously, the reason the host said this is because those two roles aren’t in the game
What would this even look like in modchat
"Will it tell me there is 1 scum among those three if there are 0 scum or 2 scum?"
"Your results are guaranteed to be 100% accurate."
"But what does that mean? Will it say 1 scum if there are more or less?"
"Your results are guaranteed to be 100% accurate."
"Okay so I can trust them, nothing interferes with them."
"They are immune to manipulation."
"Would Godfather or Miller interfere with them?"
"Yes"
"Then how can they be immune to manipulation?"
"Haha because Godfather and Miller aren't in the game, oops guess I gave that away."
Spent all day building a 12 foot ramp only to find out I have to make it 26 feet to be up to code fml
Guess you're not allowed to just eyeball it and be like "yeah I could push gran up that"
idk about these emotional plays dude. why do you sound like if Trump played mafia
"SCUMBAG WHITEFLAME is trying to manipulate and discredit me, but what else do you expect from LIARS and MANIPULATORS. Expected better from Wryly. Why can't she see he is CLEARLY THE REDIRECTOR. Could she be secret scum? If she were town she would not be on a smear campaign against yours truly! Maybe in collusion with Scumbag Whiteflame. SAD!"
Bringing gran home Monday and have to work on building a wheelchair ramp today, activity will be sporadic
Just try to ignore the claims for a second. Read without mech and you can find me as Town pretty easily. It is only my claim, which is true, that fucks me over.
I won't read without mech analysis.
My gut got Mag1c mislynched.
I don't think saying "I am not an investigative" is claiming, and I don't think it's particularly scummy. Thoth also admitted he was not an investigative.
if you don’t look at me with red tinted glasses, my behaviour makes perfect sense as Town who is afraid of being wrong and given an unfamiliar role, on a new site. like if you just try to set aside your suspicion for a second, I am pretty straightforward and not exactly hard to read.
I've given the "new guy" argument some credit up until now. But you are an experienced player, there is no way to tell if you've ever heard of Sensor or not, and you've changed your story on the details of your role several times.
*sense not since
god i wish we could edit for typos
have you never lied before? liars usually try to avoid flat out lying and try to find ways around by stating things like “I cannot have done this” instead of a crystal clear lie like “I did not do this”
And, do you think as a new player I risk my neck out by claiming a role I didn’t even know existed? I wouldn’t fakeclaim a role thag I don’t even know to use, nor ask any of the questions I asked. I’m not that bloody erratic as scum to fakeclaim a role and then doubt its results, I got a lot of flak especially from Mag1c over my mistrust of my results.
it’d be way safer for me to claim something easy like Doctor or something. It’s not like there’s as many questions to ask about that as about a Sensor, less opportunity to slip.
This is wifom, and I have only your word that you didn't know it existed.
I'll grant your behavior all game hasn't made much since as town, and it's why I've been inclined to townread you up until now. But I don't find it impossible that you're just a player who likes to play it loose and risky. You play tipsy, you're impulsive, and you do dumb shit just for the sake of it.
Who cares how “specific” the circumstances for you to be scum have to be? This is manipulation. You are NOT saying you aren’t scum, you are saying that you should not be scum. No 1. you are not even flat out saying “I’m not scum”, you are saying “I cannot be scum”, which is not only a lie (I could be a scum from Wryly’s perspective and even admitted as such), it is also manipulation. Someone who isn’t scum would just state it, scumbag. You’re not doing it. I will flat out do it, as I’ve already done it before: I AM NOT SCUM.
Because the more specific the scum circumstances have to be, the less likely they become, a point Mag1cman tried to drive home last DP but which fell on my deaf ears because I just had it in my head that the suspect who didn't bus must be likelier than the suspect who did.
Saying "I'm not scum" is meaningless, I have no idea why swearing it or not swearing it has any weight at all in a lying game where mechanics matter and honor doesn't.
We don’t need any protective roles with three investigatives. The setup is weirdly balanced by the fact that it seems townsided, only it isn’t. It’s designed to make town mistrust each other.
it is like this on purpose. It’s an intentionally WIFOMMY setup which isn’t in our favour.
ask yourself this. Which fakeclaim is safer and easier to make, Bodyguard or Sensor? Neither our roles are proven; at least mine is proven partially correct thus far because Shining was scum, and I called out that PoE way before we decided to lynch shining.
They're both risky claims for scum, since most games are going to have protective and investigative roles.
The only way I see scum!whiteflame claiming Bodyguard is if someone in the graveyard originally had it but it was tailored out, like Rex. But that doesn't make sense with DP1 #400.
As for your other point, I find 2 investigatives + 1 protective a lot easier to believe than 3 investigatives + no protective. I've only played six games, but I have yet to play one without some kind of role which mitigated scum's lethality. The closest was maybe Alien mafia, which had no direct protective but did have a Martyr, an Apportioner, and a Hunter. Bleeder does nothing to either stop or mitigate an NK.
I really didn't think I'd live to post a Wylted quote every day phase of this game.
Ramshutu: There is no band wagon to be jumping on, I have got through my release cycle - and I am now bored! Ask me anything: ask for jokes, witty out downs, incantations; etc.
Wylted: Why is this not in the personal section? How come you suck balls?
Ramshutu: 1.) I put this here to deliberately annoy you personally. 2.) I suck balls because I have the ability and I like the taste. On a side note: you do not suck balls, because even a dog; after eating three day old street vomit, old grass clippings then licking themselves; would likely question the hygiene of letting their testicles anywhere near your festering maw.
Wylted: That explains why my dog has been avoiding me
Ramshutu: I'm sure it's not just dogs.
Wylted: Clearly, but since they are the least picky beings it is obvious that other beings will not lick ny balls either with the exception of your mother.
Ramshutu: That wasn’t my mother; I paid Haley Joel Osmet $10 and 20 McNuggets to dress in drag. He told me there wasnt enough barbeque sauce in the world to make him do it again.
Wylted: Hopefully he is a fan of Szechuan sauce then.
Whatever happened to Ram anyway?
Savant: The theme of this game will be feminism, and I'll be co-hosting with Pie. Going to be 7v2 with a theme split.
AdaptableRatman: I will sign up if you listen to this fresh new UK rap track and admit the average UK rapper can take an average US rapper and smack them up down left right diagonal in a rap battle.
Wylted-Lashwnda: Nigga what y'all got to rap about? 'Oh my my, look at that strumpet! Oh nigga nigga, I done dropped my crumpet'
Fell asleep on top of my phone woke up with it super hot.
So if I've got this straight, the two scenarios I have to consider are:
1. Magoroth is scum, NK'd Thoth over me for some reason, and bussed Shining.
2. whiteflame is scum, there are basically no protective roles in the game, there are three investigative roles in the game, and whiteflame can only be a Redirector.
*based
Also - I wouldn’t kill Thoth if I was scum here. He seemed to be town reading me, or at least trusting Whiteflame and Mag1cman less than he trusts me. This kill benefits Whiteflame.
Yes, I know, WIFOM, but this really isn’t the time for WIFOM. It really only benefits Whiteflame. I don’t kill the person who can help me make it through endgame. You survived because you townread the scum.
I do question why I'm alive. Thoth would make sense for whiteflame to NK, but as he points out, Kohai did not make sense.
I could just be overthinking a lot of your decisions. Maybe you're just a player who flies by the seat of his pants and makes calls bases on what amuses you or what keeps people guessing.