Wryly
You haven’t played as scum with me lol. I have everything ready ASAP. Plan A, B, and C. And like you said + OP said. Justifications are pretty much meaningless. Saying I’m one of those 3 is adequate enough for me. If 4 people agree with you, I’ll narrow it down


Even if you have everything ready, still better to claim late as scum so you can compare your story against everyone else's who has already claimed. And justifications being meaningless only makes it all the more pointless to refuse softing. We could probably all claim our characters right now and scum would still be none the wiser to who has what role, so why be so tight-fisted about a mere soft. My role makes no apparent sense to me in connection with my character.

Wryly

Why are you acting like I'm asking you to full claim. Just soft. Decision, event, or someone/something still leaves you with a broad cloak of options. I see no reason why there is any disadvantage to doing so, nor any advantage in refusing to do so, aside from not setting precedent of softing -- which only really aids your scum game imo

Wryly
I don’t get the case on Pie at all. Nor why Kohai has to be Town?
I’ve seen both his scum and his town game on MU in Turbos, and I can’t read the bastard.


Yeah I'm a new-ish player and idk what Turbos are, but in the last game I played with Pie, he was scum, refused to soft, and basically successfully threw a lot of suspicion around at others while not posting a scrap of a claim until DP3 after he had NK'd the investigator.


The case for a town lean on Kohai is that SOPing hated is a risky claim for scum since you're in danger of being the default lynch. If town fails to gain any sus traction on anyone else they're tempted to lynch the guy who had a low-value role anyway.

Wryly

Muh reads


  1. Rex: Softed but sporadic as usual; null.
  2. Kohai: SOP claimed, looks good; town pile.
  3. Mag1c: Softed, not a whole lot of activity; null.
  4. Thoth: Slight sus, soft was too vague, no recent activity.
  5. Shining: Softed, participating, like his posts so far; town lean.
  6. whiteflame: Softed, plenty of logical analysis as always; null.
  7. Magorath: Claimed Cody Parkey very early, which is encouraging, but as scum were given fake claims and characters don't necessarily nail down roles in this game, I'll have to file him as null.
  8. Wylted: He keeps appearing in Kohai's claims list but I haven't seen him post yet so idk.
  9. Pie: FOSing others while refusing to soft. Good participation, but that's NAI for him; sus pile.
Wryly
Even if Christ descended from Heaven and asks Pie to soft/claim, he would still refuse. Pie always gets a stick up his ass regarding his claims.


By conditioning town to believe a soft can never be gotten from him, he creates an effective screen for refusing to soft when he is scum. It's a good policy.

Wryly

The whole point of softing is to increase credibility by nailing down at least a little detail of your role, something scum would be reluctant to do because they don't want to limit their fake claim choices at all too early. Even if they were given fake claims, they want more time to think of which roles should go with those characters and would be safe to claim, etc.

Wryly

VTL Pie


Him FOSing others while cannily refusing to soft claim was an early point of suspicion for me last game when he was scum, and I failed to press him on it. Give me at least a definitive soft.

Wryly
That also makes it a scummier claim because wagons won't build on him out of caution and it's only confirmable by lynching him.


It's also a pretty risky thing to claim as scum, at least with Pie in the game.

Wryly

He's probably targeting Rex due to inactivity, no attempt to scumhunt, apparent indifference to who is lynched. The thing is these are all normal behaviors for Rex and don't really indicate anything alignment-wise -- which is not to say that they shouldn't be held to account, I suppose.

Wryly

Posting a Wylted quote every day phase in memory of he whom I replace.


disgusted: Your opinion of necrophilia? We have one member who is a proud practitioner.
wylted: As long as it's consensual
Castin: *slowly building laughter*
disgusted: Why? Wilter means it, spirits don't you know? Effing hilarious isn't he and the rest of the terminally deluded.
Castin: Where is this coming from?
disgusted: The madman's claim that he was fucking my dead mother.
Castin: Lol. Like what was the context? Or better yet, do you have a link to it?
wylted: No, I dug her up and fucked her rotting corpse, she has a tattoo of a yellow flower on her inner thigh, I used to call her my rose, but when she died I decided to call myself wylted to honor her memory. I also made love to her out of respect. It's what she would have wanted
Wryly

Also Vader said that justifications were loosey-goosey this game so it's not like your character gives much away about your role, which is the main reason (afaik) for keeping your character close to the vest at first. So why the heck would you not just pick one of the options.

Wryly
> Be Thoth
> Suggest something we could soft-claim
> Expect people to discuss the merits of this soft-claim
> People just soft-claim


Your softing system is bullshit, you're bullshit, no one will tacitly accept it, no one (did that help)


Also wtf is up with you flakes saying "I am one of the three" or "I am one of these two". This is the vaguest soft method ever, picking one of the three barely limits your choices. There have to be tons of decisions, tons of events, tons of people in this theme. One of the options is literally just "other." And yet it was not vague enough for Pie

Wryly
I am a decision made by a team, either the Bears or their opponent
I am an event that happened to the Bears, not directly due to anyone's decision
I am someone or something else, like a specific player or coach


I'm #1


Wryly

Re: Rex -- he's like, always like that. He barely posted DP1 of last game and was town. He said "I'll lynch whoever" last game and was town. His inactivity and listlessness are NAI.

Wryly

I know absolutely nothing about any sports that are not Battlebots. If things are not exploding or spewing sparks or catching fire or launching themselves into plate glass I just don't see the fun in it really, unless Jake Paul is getting his jaw broke or something.

Wryly

Riiiiiiiiight let's do this. Filling in for wylted, I am wylted now. I think I'm supposed to say something about Jews. *clears throat* Jews, Jews, Jews, Jewwwwwws. *erratic flailing*