Wryly

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I still say Amber was one of the best fiction universe ideas I've ever read. Crazy to me they never tried to adapt it to film or television.

I couldn't believe that anyone bought that justification for Barry being Strengthener lmfao

I've sussed worse justifications that turned out to be legit. I kind of agree with Shining, the whole justification analysis angle is a crap shoot.

Your pfp looks very much like a piece of Corwin of Amber fan art I saw once

It was. I blew myself up once as scum and still didn't feel as dumb as I did after your mislynch.

Also I almost watched Pie the first night but changed my mind because it was a gut decision and again I didn't trust my gut lol. I picked Rex instead because he had at least signaled he was going to use a role NP1 and I thought he might be roleblocked, NK'd, protected, or modified. This cost town a valuable watch result, cuz I would've seen Shining visiting Pie.

I sussed Pie from DP1 forward but didn't trust my own instincts on the matter after my rationalizations for it proved inconclusive. Meanwhile I should've trusted Rex sooner, but I figured if I was a scum or TP neighborizer and I wanted to manipulate someone, I would probably either pick Kohai or me, and Kohai got mislynched.

The Shining vote I'm particularly embarrassed about. I thought he'd acted scummy and I was too suspicious Jailkeeper was a cover for a scum RB. I put too much weight in the fact that his character was an outlier. The alternative to voting him would've been a pure vibes vote, which I wasn't comfortable with. #Regrets

Frustrated by the inactivity this game. A lot of Pie's arguments DP3 were just "where have you been," like Rex was a dead beat dad who showed up at his kid's middle school graduation and now suddenly wanted custody.

Gonna be busy soon so

VTL Shining

Was thinking a winsteal

What do you think of the possibility of a 3P

He means if there is no scum roleblocker and only a Jailkeeper in the game it would mean his Strengthener is only there to counter a townie role, ergo negative utility (I think)

So he was introduced in season 1?

Depends if scum decided to straight claim their characters. If the theme is unobvious, they could have. Save their questions for the roles.

Is your character from season 1

Is your Strengthener an x-shot

WF said the character list encompasses the whole show. A season 3 antagonist isn't impossible. Just sticks out to me.

I hope this does not come across as OGI or badly sourced modpsyche, but the main difference between my 7- and 8-player setups for Madoka Magica was your role.

I'm definitely not dismissing the possibility of a 3P

Certainly, the best arguments in favor of Shining are 1) no one else has claimed a protective role and 2) his role + your Strengthener is the current best explanation for Luna's information.

The arguments against him are a) he hammered Kohai, b) Jailkeeper from Jim Moss is iffy, c) Jailkeeper is a great cover for a scum RB, d) your role does support the existence of a scum RB, e) Jim Moss sticks out as the only character not in season 1, f) scum could have used their questions to make sure Jailkeeper was a safe claim, g) there could easily be an alternate explanation for Luna's clue with two players (besides me) unclaimed

Thoth - Barry Berkman - Strengthener

Pie - ??? - ???

Wryly - character knows how to use a gun - ???

Vader - ??? - ???

RexFavilla - ??? - unknown role confirmed by Wryly

Shining - Jim Moss - Jailkeeper

Cerulean - Goran Pazar - Gravedigger

Graveyard:

Kohai - Gene Cousineau - Dreamer

Lunatic - Sally Reed - Informed Townie

Two roleblockers is bastard, especially when scum's roleblocker only helps scum but town's roleblocker helps as well as hinders town.

Consider my vote on Shining unless there's some further development, despite my misgivings we're lynching our only protective

Also our only lore lord was Lunatic, RIP

whiteflame saying he'd like 9 players but he could "make it work" with 8 is something I keep agonizing over

You will receive a dream containing the names of three players, at least one of which does not win with town.

Plus this wording. Would've expected "at least one of which is scum" instead

I may be overanalyzing because I'm tired and short on facts

All I really know is that the wiki says Rex's role is usually town aligned. That doesn't mean that WF didn't give the role to mafia or third party this game to be tricksy.

Ah I see.

That... is pretty nuisance-y.

Could that really be what's meant by "someone’s role is a greater nuisance than they know"? Eh.

The reason I thought Lunatic's Informed Townie message about someone's role being a greater nuisance than they know might refer to me is because I could override Shining's Jailkeeper. When I got my role PM, I figured that my role was in this setup to counter a scum roleblocker or redirector of some kind. There probably is one in the setup because I don't think my role is purely negative utility, especially not with Cerulean likely being a Gravedigger, but I didn't know that, if I targeted a mafiosi, I could potentially nullify a town roleblocker and/or a town protective.

So reflecting back on this, you can't nullify a protective but you could prevent the Jailkeeper from roleblocking scum

Can you ask WF what happens if you strengthen someone who's been Jailkept

I think I am actually going to have to uncocoon myself from my cozy blankets and pad over to the PC to write out some lengthier thoughts, which is like ugh

Yes I paid him to put that in tildes, what of it

Shit, I'm waffling

That's the main sticking point for me as well, but the protective may just not want to expose themselves