Yeah I'm leaning Shining
Vader is a null read for me
Wryly · a year ago
Yeah I'm leaning Shining
Vader is a null read for me
Wryly · a year ago
You never explained how you "calculated" that Pie had a power role
Wryly · a year ago
Barry Berkman
Gene Cousineau
Goran Pazar
Sally Reed
Jim Moss
Yeah I'm no closer to figuring out the theme split, even supposing one or more of these is a fake claim.
Jim Moss sticks out as being the only character not in season 1.
Wryly · a year ago
Appreciate the claim, and don't worry about the inactivity. Illness happens.
Okay, I buy Barry Berkman; he has to be in the game and scum are never gonna fake claim him.
I'm unsure of the implications on Shining's claim. Strengthener implies scum have an RB and Shining could be a scum RB claiming Jailbreaker as a cover. Everyone who's claimed or flipped has a major character from season 1 except Shining. Jim Moss seems like a bit of a pull.
What happens if you strengthen someone who's been Jailkept? Does it prevent the roleblock or the roleblock and the protection?
Wryly · a year ago
I received no such message
If you didn't execute an action that doesn't mean much; if you did it means quite a bit
Wryly · a year ago
I thought roleblocks just block roles, not NK's
Wryly · a year ago
Sorry to hear about your health problems, Thoth. Feel better soon.
Do you mind claiming?
Wryly · a year ago
How many shots on your Jailkeeper
As many as I want.
Hmm
Wryly · a year ago
If Shining is telling the truth, you either have a passive, waived your action, or got an action failed message last NP. Did you get an action failed message?
Wryly · a year ago
I literally did the same thing in a similiar game once as scum in a mafia game. I literally claimed Ken Jeong as Doctor because I asked if a Doctor was in the game and Luna said no because that was setup. This point is inherently null and it's still a RB. It's also such an easy fake claim.
But if it had turned out there was a Jailkeeper in that game it would still have been sus for you to claim Doctor. Likewise if it turns out there's a Doctor or something in this game it will be sus that he has Jailkeeper.
Wryly · a year ago
And how do you know I’m not a protective role or someone else isn’t?
No one has claimed one; if someone came forward with one that would put some pressure on Shining.
Wryly · a year ago
Fwiw Rex's role is one the wiki lists as usually town aligned.
Wryly · a year ago
How many shots on your Jailkeeper
Wryly · a year ago
I'm on the road right now but I see many of us sussed Pie. I listed my reasons and I thought he gave some decent responses. Why is he on y'all's scum pile?
Wryly · a year ago
Didn't think of Jailbreaker being an easy cover for an RB. Whether the justification works, eh idk. He did claim with minimal pressure.
My issue with that is that it's pretty ballsy to be the first dude to claim a protective role as scum. The counterclaim risk would be pretty high.
Yeah I think I said this in #98 and it's my main reason for hesitating on Shining. No one else has yet claimed a protective role either
Wryly · a year ago
My power is out at home. Hopefully it will be restored by the time I'm back
Wryly · a year ago
Didn't think of Jailbreaker being an easy cover for an RB. Whether the justification works, eh idk. He did claim with minimal pressure.
Wryly · a year ago
finished catching up?
Wryly · a year ago
Reads?
Wryly · a year ago
Ok so the wording of post #89 in DP1 just threw me then.
I thought Luna's method would at least have prevented scum from waiting until the majority of players had softed and then just going with the majority answer. If someone's soft was too vague it could have been singled out and pressed.
Wryly · a year ago
Or like Imhotep in The Mummy
"Her name shall not be spoken"
Wryly · a year ago
Town is so sleepy this game this is all a conspiracy to keep my ELO in the Mariana Trench
If I lose this game I want to be stricken from the leaderboards like an ancient Roman damnatio memoriae thing
Wryly · a year ago
That would be you actually. I calculated the risk you being some PR, and prioritized saving you from a potential NK.
How did you calculate that?
Wryly · a year ago
No need to pressure me. I am Jim Moss and I am the Jailkeeper. My justification is that I am really good at interrogations and manipulation so that makes me a JK.
So I noticed this wasn't on Lunatic's DP1 list and I guess it's because this character doesn't make an appearance until season three, but WF confirmed the character list does cover the whole series. While it's possible Jim Moss could be a fake claim -- he doesn't seem like a central character for the first several seasons -- I doubt scum would want to claim a protective role since one is probably already in the game. I'll town pile Shining for the moment.
Wryly · a year ago
Happy to unpack
tl;dr mixed signals
Wryly · a year ago
Thoth - ??? - ???
Pie - ??? - ???
Wryly - character knows how to use a gun - ???
Vader - ??? - ???
RexFavilla - ??? - unknown role confirmed by Wryly
Shining - Jim Moss - Jailkeeper
Cerulean - Goran Pazar - Gravedigger
Graveyard:
Kohai - Gene Cousineau - Dreamer
Lunatic - Sally Reed - Informed Townie
Wryly · a year ago
Paging Egyptian deity
Wryly · a year ago
I'd like a claim from you as well. I've got mixed signals from you this game that I'm not sure how to interpret. I'm sure there was at least one scum on Kohai's wagon, and while I get the argument that it was a last minute thing, I'd still like some more info on those involved.
Wryly · a year ago
Determined to kick up some more activity this DP. Let's discuss at least soft claims. We've made little progress.
Wryly · a year ago
Are you role and affiliation confirmed or just role.
No affiliation confirmation.