Wryly
I think healer was an afterthought to be honest because it says I am a master of botanical.arts which can be deadly and because of this mastery I am 1x poisoner and a 1x healer.

I didn't make the justification though.


I mean Milich is a botanist but he didn't create the antidote for the main poison he uses in the game.

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Kohai was pretty insistent that Tir is town, though that doesn't match up with the assumed theme split too well, or the very Soul Eater-like manner in which Shining was NK'd.


I could see wylted carrying out the NK and then making up this poisoning story to cover his visit, but it seems riskier than just NKing and hoping no one tracked him. Draws more attention.


I can't account for the inconsistency in his character and ability and it does seem sus.


Impossible for me to analyze Thoth's info with such vagueness surrounding it, but regardless, all it means is wylted didn't use any power role on Shining. NK is still possible.

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I don’t think so at all. That’s just factually not accurate in the game at all

its inconsistent as shit


It's definitely questionable, and honestly it's not something I would expect Rex to do if he's as much of a Suikoden lorefan as you

Wryly

If you think it's best not to reveal, don't. I'd rather be ignorant alongside scum than informed alongside scum

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Idk wtf to think.


Wylted says he poisoned Shining, whose name he temporarily forgot, and coincidentally Shining was targeted for the NK, but Thoth says wylted "did not kill Shining" unless it was via NK, which doesn't make much sense. That's the only way wylted could have killed Shining, correct? The poison doesn't kill immediately, it, well, poisons.


Simultaneously Thoth says he knows Mikal is innocent which doesn't make much sense to me if Thoth targeted wylted somehow.

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It was a different character entirely who created the antidote, yes, and I would've assumed Rex would make that character the doc, but I'm not eliminating the possibility Rex took some liberties with characters and role.

Wryly

I'm stumped as to what role you could have had that allowed you to ascertain 1) that wylted did not kill Shining and 2) that Mikal is innocent, all in one NP.


Could a more experienced player weigh in on that?

Wryly

If you're saying he could only have done so with the NK then I assume you interfered with his role somehow?

Wryly
It’s a soft. There are still 108 characters. And it ties him directly to it. He was being asked to claim so at least it makes them do work.

and there are a few characters that can apply to


It's not a soft. I know nothing about this game and now know who he is based only on your question. There's only like one character in Suikoden 1 who fucks with poison and whose last name is a movie title. You told him not to claim and then asked him a giveaway question. This is one character we did not want scum figuring out.

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Why hint and answer like this I can figure out his character from a google now and so can scum

Wryly
I havent played with him before but he was saying obvious stuff and it felt like fluff. Like his comments about white flame felt contrived. I guess it's too late now but he had so few posts maybe he was hinting at a role and the scum team want to use the role he was hinting at as a fake claim or something


This really isn't much to base a decision on, but I feel like shooting from the hip would be characteristic of you, so whatever.

Wryly

Post #502 was me voting yea btw.


He's too much of a risk. We've alienated him and cum could have a lot of fun using him to ill ends. They may already have.

Wryly
I agree with this, but Mikal said he thought WF was bluffing. Anyways, it’s partially Mharman’s fault too for being a retard.


Even if he suspected he was bluffing there was 0 reason to take that risk as town. Its like something scum would do on the off chance they could get an extra townie killed. I'd laugh my ass off about it too


As for whether to lynch WF, I think town has succeeded in engendering at best apathy and at worst spite in him and hes unlikely to want to help us atp, so yeah

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And why tf is everyone blaming whiteflame for targeting Magic. He has no reason to shoot responsibly, hes TP; Mikal, however, had a reason to choose the target responsibly. If he's town.

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On my way home but not happy with the way things have developed here.


First you said the theme wasnt basic then that it was as simple as the two factions in the game. First you said it was safe to character claim in defiance of mod warning, then that we shouldn't bc roles could be inferred from it, then that we should mass claim. You arbitrarily got our cop killed for vague reasons with no significant gains, and now that whiteflame has been burned by town and proven to be an effective tool for killing townies, you dont want to lynch anyone today. Youve been the greatest force urging us all to share our claims when if you're right we should be keeping those who can be recruited shrouded in anonymity. Not saying ive scumlocked you but why you're in anyone's town pile I have no idea.

Wryly
Modpsychers unite: Can you imagine Rex giving scum a third-party as a fake-claim?


🫩 Why would you put this thought in my head

Wryly

I know you're chomping at the bit to see everyone's cards because of your familiarity with the lore, but you solving it before scum takes advantage of the info or NK's you is hardly a guarantee, and anyway we'd all be relying pretty much entirely on your judgment for a solve. Don't like basing my votes off one person's narrative.