Wryly

No way im on board with a mass claim considering the mod warning about TMI aiding scum.

Wryly

I'm ok with a WF lynch. No reason to trust that his win conditions are what he says.


For now, we still haven't heard from Ultra or Wylted

Wryly

I can see a scenario where WF comes home tired from work, is asked to claim Toran/Scarlet, sees nothing to that effect in his PM, and reads from the wiki. I don't want to jump the gun here. The major point for me is that scum would be crazy to claim Toran affiliation. You've just pointed out an Empire character he could've fake claimed instead. There must be more Empire characters scum could use.

Wryly

Not sure how to take this tbh. I had just been trying to figure out how the New State Army fit into the events of Suidoken when Mikal said its actually from Suidoken II. I could see WF perhaps reading it from the wiki, but I took "it says..." to mean his PM. People usually convey information from their PM first before the wiki

Wryly

revealing information about your character will allow scum to use their roles to much greater effect


☝️ we just ignoring this now

Wryly
why scum can only recruit certain characters - (don't want to say this as it will tell them who to target)
what aspects of the game support the recruitment or cult mechanic (the entire game is based around recruiting 107 characters, the stars of destiny)
why Sanchez would be unrecruitable - (sanchez was a traitor who basically fucked over the liberation and betrayed all his friends. He was scarlet through and through)


Appreciate the answers.


If the game is just Toran freedom fighters recruiting people from the Empire, why can't scum recruit anyone aligned with the Empire, including Sanchez?

Wryly

Currently most of the speculation is being driven by one person whose expertise I'm leaning on, which I don't love since a loremaster on the scum side could really control the narrative when the theme is such an esoteric game.


Not loving the paucity of online information about the PS1 game specifically. The synopses I can find are kind of ass. Don't even mention the 108 stars.


I don't grok the following:


  1. why scum can only recruit certain characters
  2. what aspects of the game support the recruitment or cult mechanic
  3. why Sanchez would be unrecruitable
Wryly

And if the leading theory rn is scum = Toran I'm interested to know why you're so certain Tir is town

Wryly
Are you made after a pirate ?
No. I won’t claim any further.


Why does the text in your Mikal quote not match the text in the original post (#36)?

Wryly

Best working theory based on available data, but I'm not eliminating the possibility of a TP.

Wryly

I'm Scarlet Moon Empire as well so the Liberation/Empire split makes sense, just seems too obvious. But I've never played the game, maybe there's not a fertile field there for splits.

Wryly
Would bet near anything tir is scum


I get the Empire/Liberation split but why would protag be scum

Wryly

I know nothing about this game. I was neck deep in Legend of Dragoon around that time I think. I'd like to take this time to say I'm a total scum noob and anyone who recruits me is shooting themselves in the foot fuck off don't pick me bitch I will cut you

Wryly

This was received in gracious comport by my distinguished personage, and may I wish the greatest felicity upon one so congenial and debonair as yourself. May you never have gastric distress in a public toilet.

Wryly

Suikoden Mafia

Wryly · a year ago

Will be a bit busy next week so if you find someone better to fill my place lmk

Wryly

Suikoden Mafia

Wryly · a year ago

What happened to those two vets you guys brought in last game. Actually, what happened to last game?


Anyway

/in

Wryly

Suikoden Mafia

Wryly · a year ago

I dread finally being scum, but I'll play if you wind up short. I don't expect you will though with the new players.