ebuc
But 150 million years after the Big Bang, there wasn’t any light coming from us yet, the Milky Way Galaxy didn’t even exist, the universe was still in its "Dark Age", and there is no light to see. We were on the verge of the “cosmic dawn" (Let there be light”. Gravity was causing clouds of hydrogen and helium to start to contract on their way to forming stars, so it's still the "Dark Age", no light to see.


Thanks SW! That technicality is exactly what I was looking for. My local brain wasnt working that well for such a cosmological scenario. You do man.


I think I skimmed a similar answer from Google AI search, tho my brain was in local time only mode. You and AI combined makes logical, common sense critical thinking replies.

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..> Best with Trump MAGA scum uncalled for{ unnecessary } killing of US citizens/individuals and unnecessary and unjust abduction of legal immigrants and placing immigrants in detention camps ---think Japanese detention camps in 40's-- with out any media or others to access and assess how these people are being treated.


..> MAGA is for most part sick in head and could care least about individual human rights, until authorities start coming for them.


..> I heard a Trump pardoned { violence or not I dunno } Jan 6th MAGA individual is going to walk through Somalia neighbor hood.

ebuc
Yes, I just think it slightly arrogant to assume that human cosmological observations and assumptions are the only ones...Especially when it is widely assumed that life must exist elsewhere in the universe.


I agree with your above and always have thought what you state above.


My thoughts were about how someone living in galaxey that exists only 150 milllion years after the BIG WOW!, seeing redshifted light from us 13 Bil after the Big WOW!, how do cosmologist from each perspective who exists where on that time line. See what I mean Sarge.


Maybe they think were early Universe, even tho we think were older Universe. What is the mechanism by which each can determine the time line from Big W! that they each exist along?


Im not sure how to type a google search in to get an reliable anwser. Im tagging Sidewalker to see if he has time to address the question. I tried google question here is link to answer:


  1. Google AI..' Cosmic Chronology and Chemical Maturity: MoM-z14, despite being early, already shows evidence of carbon and nitrogen. Intelligent beings analyzing their own interstellar medium would realize these elements are produced by stellar generations. If they are in an early epoch of rapid star formation (a "cosmic miracle" with high star formation rates, 50 times smaller than the Milky Way), they could calculate that it takes billions of years of stellar life cycles to produce a mature, heavy-element-rich galaxy like the Milky Way, which would not exist for another 10+ billion years in their future.
  2. Redshift and Expansion Cosmology: By measuring the expansion rate of the universe (Hubble's Law), creatures in MoM-z14 (redshift z=14.44z equals 14.44
  3. 𝑧=14.44
  4. ) would observe that all distant, future structures are moving away from them and are structurally less developed in their early, high-redshift observations. They could calculate that a region (the future Milky Way) has not yet gravitationally collapsed and formed.
  5. Fundamental Cosmological Modeling: Assuming advanced understanding of the Big Bang, they could calculate the time elapsed since the universe was a hot, dense state (1.1.6). Knowing that the Milky Way is a large spiral galaxy, they would know such massive, organized structures cannot exist in the immediate, violent, post-reionization era (280 million years after the Big Bang).
  6. Light Speed Limitations: They could only observe "past" states of other regions. If they observed the region of space that would become the Milky Way, they would see only primordial gas, not yet formed into stars, confirming it is in a "later" state of evolutionary development. 


Essentially, they would look at their surroundings and conclude that they are living in a young, chaotic "baby" universe, and that large, mature, metal-rich spiral galaxies are billions of years away from forming, placing the Milky Way "later" in cosmic time


ebuc
So perhaps another civilisation within a "new older galaxy" has their super duper telescope up and running...Spots the Milky way and concludes a new older galaxy that should not exist.


I dunno that your presented scenario is valid. I would need some cosmologist/physcisists interpretation of you presented scenario to see if it of a valid feasabilty.


Appears to be good common sense approach, however, how logical and how much critical thinking is being used there, I cannot say, without more info of how cosmologist/physicist would view the feasibility of the scenario. Thanks for those thoughts Sarge.


Something to reasearch when I get time.

ebuc
Fair enough? Yeah, pie hole verbiage, indeed. Happens to be valid.


Which sentence of your diatribe vof erbiage that actually points to any specific sentence of my message in #11? YOu dont because it is just some generalize verbiage, that agin, does not address even one single sentence I presented that is invalid.


Please share Faux when you have relevant and signifcant info that does the above, and invalidates any of the sentances presented.

ebuc
Perhaps we were designed in the image of a clever stupid humanesque nutjob.


That may very well be possible Sarge. We may be the result of some extra-terrestrials that were doing some experiments by nut-jobs, and our human RNA-DNA was intentionally or not, out into the greater Universe.


Who knows what goes on out there, over however many years of Universe's existence. The james webb telescope is finding galaxies, that should not exist in the early Universe, yet that is what the data is showing.


AI..' These findings, from programs like JADES, show galaxies forming faster and bigger than expected, with some acting as "sparkling islands" clearing cosmic fog, while others may host massive black holes, all reshaping ideas about early cosmic evolution '..


Basically these new much older galaxies being found by James Webb questions humans whole standard model understanding of evolution of Universe.


Here is utube of Galaxy existence only 210 million years after the alledged Big WOW! { what ever that actuall was }.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKE6ITlHDOI&t=123s

ebuc

If what I presented in #11 true and factual, then, the only excess is your pie hole verbiage Faux. Please, try again with relevant significance regarding any invalid info I presented in #11.


Those who have none offer none. Old news.


ebuc
Do you think that in a billion years after the apocalypse, sentient dextrous intelligent birds would make a better job of things.



Depends on how we define ' better '. In no way do I think Avian Dinos could have the potential to as much damage to ecological environment humans have done, and humans potential to do in future short term future

ebuc

.....Why Do Christians Believe God Became Flesh?......


Maybe it is because humans are flesh eating Zombies, who will believe any nonsense irrespective of how illogical, lacking common sense critical thinking, as long as their given their daily ration of brains?


(^ v ^) Hi, im a fleshing eating Zombie, what do you want me to believe today?


ebuc

Sarge, just so were clear about the vid with Google ex CEO future views.


Humanity has had a view or many catastrophic occurrences, that, was horrific for various reasons --war{ several }, flu { 1918 }-- yet humanity has survived them. So later in vid the Ex Google CEO makes that clear. So his point being that, I believe, is that yes may more likely to have one these biologic or chemical or even nuclear horrors for some part of humanity, yet not all of humanity.


in my mind, what is differrent, is 2-fold:


1} hydrogen nuclear weapons ergo larger scale ionizing radiation in concert with nuclear plant power sources release of such,


2} erratic climate change, that, increases chances of the #1 above occurring, along with erratic climate change destruction of ecological systems, and that do sustain humans on Earth. Isnt there some old saying that its all connected?


What percentage of oceans eco-system can be lost without causing end ecological sustain-ability of humanity of any size?


There is lots of methane in bottom of the oceans underground.


AI..' Yes, there are massive amounts of methane trapped underground beneath the ocean floor

, stored in sediments and as ice-like methane hydrates, with much of it generated from decomposing organic matter or deep geological processes. This underground methane can escape through seafloor features called seeps (cold seeps, hydrothermal vents), forming underwater "pipelines" or bubbles that sustain unique ecosystems, though scientists are still studying how much reaches the atmosphere '..


And if that stuff was released into atmosphere, what is risk of explosive storms that set fire to Boreal forests in northern hemi-spheres, releasing more gases, not to mention how the perma-frost is melting and also release more methane and so on and so on around the planet. With such scenarios being possible, to think that cattle ranching --even for a few random humans-- will be feasible in Siberia and other places not currently to human agriculture........? ? ?


AI..' Yes, vast amounts of methane are trapped in and under Northern Hemisphere permafrost, stored as frozen organic matter and methane clathrates, which can be released as the ground thaws due to global warming, significantly impacting climate by releasing potent greenhouse gases. This methane comes from microbes decomposing organic material and geological sources, migrating through cracks and faults as permafrost warms '..



ebuc

Got this below from the Max Tegmark vid -- link at bottom of page-- in regards to phi based conscious-ness value system.


...' Does IIT Explain Qualia?


IIT claims that the specific content of a conscious experience (what it is like to have that experience, or its "qualia") is determined by, and i**ndeed identical to, the configuration or geometric "shape" of the integrated information**—the informational relationships within the conceptual structure.


12 In other words, the particular way in which information is integrated and organized within the structure determines the subjective quality of the experience. '..


https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/finding-purpose/202310/an-intriguing-and-controversial-theory-of-consciousness-iit


Max Tegmak vid on consciousness overlap with intelligernce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gekVfUAS7c

ebuc
You really cant imagine that given all the things people trust govt to do. Also there is no limit to human stupidity. Those two combined make it almost a sure bet AI will be put in control of nukes.


Sure got that correct Sado. Thanks!


As well as corporations --aka money/financial-- rules humanity, not intellectual considerations of longer term survival.


Gov. rides on the tail of money dragon being whipped around. See Bucky Fullers book Gr.u.n.ch of the Giants


Faux seems to be in denial of humans ability for stupidity and that, there are many signs that humanity is destroying the ecological environment that sustains them.


I think Faux is stuck in some religious non-sense that humans are so special to his alledged God concept, that, humanity can reproduce without limit and God intends them to mass-reproduce and spread through out Universe because they are so special.


Humans are unique in their abillity to access meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Humans make errors and humanity is currently making errors ins how it is treating their ecological environment.


Humanity needs to get smart or perish here on Earth sooner, rather than later.

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

The proof is IN the pudding... the pudding, is in the crust.


The pudding is not in the crust. I.e. the crust is distinctly seperate from the pudding.


The finite pudding is partially embraced by the finite crust.


1} The eternal, non-dynamic, macro-micro-infinite, truly non-occupied space, embraces the following,


2} the eternal, dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe @. Simple


(^ v ^) Hi, Im a finite { whole }, biological integrity ---structural and systemic whole-- that exists in constant transformation until it comes apart aka decay process with terminal ending as a biological integrity.



ebuc

Sexual diversity is result of sex.


...' Not content with one pair of sex chromosomes, the platypus (Ornithorhynchus anatinus) has five. This is the largest number found in mammals so far, and also hints that the sex determination systems of birds and mammals may be linked.... 'The platypus is native to Australia, and belongs to a primitive group of mammals called the monotremes, along with only two other surviving species: the long-beaked and short-beaked echidnas.


Monotremes were the first group to branch off after mammals evolved 210 million years ago. Their egg-laying shares a common origin with birds and reptiles, although the bill is thought to have evolved independently. '..

https://www.nature.com/news/2004/041025/full/news041025-1.html#:~:text=News-,Duck%2Dbilled%20platypus%20boasts%20ten%20sex%20chromosomes,evolutionary%20origin%20of%20sex%20determination.&text=Everyone%20knows%20that%20the%20duck,way%20its%20genes%20determine%20sex.


...' All of these mechanisms working together result in an amazing amount of potential variation. Each human couple, for example, has the potential to produce more than 64 trillion genetically unique children. No wonder we are all different!


See Sources of Variation at http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variation/sources/ for additional information. '..


https://bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_and_General_Biology/Introductory_Biology_(CK-12)/02%3A_Cell_Biology/2.39%3A_Genetic_Variation


..' Any variation from these typical numbers is referred to scientifically as an “aneuploidy.” If there is one additional X or Y, it is known as a “trisomy” (“tri” denoting the number 3). Genetic conditions that reflect a trisomy include:

  1. 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
  2. 47,XXX (Trisomy X)
  3. 47,XYY

Trisomies are the most common X and Y aneuploid conditions. Less common are “tetrasomies,” which denote the presence of four sex chromosomes:

  1. 48,XXYY
  2. 48,XXXY
  3. 48,XXXX

Still rarer are the “pentasomies,” indicating five sex chromosomes:

  1. 49,XXXXY
  2. 49,XXXXX

Typically, 48- and 49-chromosome variations produce more pronounced symptoms than trisomies, although this is not always the case.

At the other end of the spectrum lie the “monosomies,” meaning a person born with only one sex chromosome. The only survivable monosomy SCA is 45,X. This is an individual with only one X chromosome, a condition known as “Turner syndrome.”


A fetus with only one Y chromosome and no X chromosome is not viable and cannot survive. AXYS does not include Turner syndrome in its mission. Turner syndrome advocacy and support can be found at www.turnersyndrome.org.


About 20 percent of persons with sex chromosome aneuploidies exhibit “mosaicism,” meaning they have two or more cell lines with different genetic signatures. Examples include 46,XY/47,XXY, and 45,X/47,XXX.


Sex chromosome aneuploidy is not inherited. The extra chromosome occurs in cell division when the egg or sperm is formed, or occasionally during cell division after fertilization. An extra X can be contributed by either the mother or father. Only the father can contribute an extra Y chromosome. '..

https://genetic.org/variations/


( ^ v ^ ) Hi! As always, a reminder that, humans can exist with only one X chromosome, however, no human exists with only one smaller { less complex } y chromosome.


ebuc

So what did Debby do.

ebuc · 10 months ago

Its not what Debby did, its what Debby --formally some Korean identity around here-- doo dooed, over and over and over and over and over again again and again and again etc. I must ive counted a hundred and ten. Sung to tune by Dean Martin sitting around drunk and counting wall paper roses.

ebuc

Art of Deception

ebuc · 10 months ago

Duke of Earl conscious-ness


' As I walk through this world

Nothing can stop the Duke of Earl

And-a you, you are my girl

And no one can hurt you, oh no


And when I hold you

You'll be my Duchess, Duchess of Earl

We'll walk through my dukedom

And a paradise we will share '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5n0FZo0ME4

ebuc

Art of Deception

ebuc · 10 months ago

AI..' The "art of misleading deception" refers to

the skillful application of various techniques—ranging from outright lies to subtle manipulation of the truth—to deliberately cause someone to accept something as true that is not. This practice is found in human interactions, psychology, literature, military strategy, and even art itself. '..


Animals do this --as does human animal--- with camouflage.

ebuc

1} eternal, dynamic, finite { integrity/whole }, occupied space Universe @ is logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion, based on what humans observe can only observe a finite Universe. Simple


2} 18/0 dual invaginated { >< } ... Gravity outer surface (> reality time <) Dark Energy inner surface (> observed time <) Outer Surface Gravity approximated horn torus i.e. the inner surface of space and time torus may or may not always be tangent to each other ergo, a gap of truly non-occupied space may appear on some occasions, however,


......2a} we have to always that, even at the outer boundary/border of the finite Universe, these 18/0 vertexial event tori, I going to be overlaping/interfering fields of 18/0 tori in a linear fashion --creating a curvature over long enough distances-- and also interfefing with fields of other tori inside of this firewall set of 18/0 tori,


3} outer surface nodal set { six events } 1....5p..7p......11p..13p.....17 vertexial their via lines of relationship with the other 12 nodal events i.e. since their is at least 3 lines-of-relationship { think field } with every seemingly 2D nodal event, they are each in fact a 3D vertexial event.


....3a} AI Euclidean vertex....' Yes, a Euclidean vertex is typically associated with 3D space (like a corner of a cube or pyramid) where edges meet, as Euclidean geometry originally described our 3D world, but the concept extends to any n-dimensional Euclidean space, representing points where multiple dimensions converge, not just three '..


4} in this above scenario, we repeatedly interfering { linear } set of ultra-micro, dual invaginated, space and time approximated horn tori fields of outer most surface of Universe via Gravity { 6 vertexials events }, and below that the internal Physical reality { 4 reality events 18/0..3p...6...9...12 15 }, and below that the Dark Energy events { 2p..4.....8.10......14.16 }.


....4a} the internal reality set and the inner surface Dark Energy set of events will be interfering with space and time tori fields on left and right and below them. These other space and time tori may be the next size larger of space and time tori i.e. 24/0, then 30/0 then 36/0 etc i,.e space and time tori cyclic frequency in theory is base on six sets of events before the next potentiallly complete space and time tori.


5} a birds-eye-view of the 2D matrice of four lines, the each loop around as circle plane look like this .....( (( () )) )....


......5a} i.e. Gravity as presented { not as the full circle } is two peak of outer positive curvature (.............................), and,


......5b} the physical reality of observed time is the two internal ets of arcs { again whole circle not presented }, .....((............))......., and,


........5c} the Dark Energy is the inner most peak of neg. curvature as .....................................()................................ and again this is a birds-eye-view i.e. as if the torus is laying flat on counter like a doughut does,


6}


7}

8} inside/internal to a horn torus { internal reality not shown }

ebuc

Hooded military doing policing of citizens is they are not trained for is not smart. Of course no intelligent, empathetic caring people said the Trump-adminstration are smart.


No investigation by the local police is also not smart.


From what video Ive seen the woman driving had been obstructing traffic to some degree before the hooded military arrived on scene. I dunno.


Then when she was approached by hooded man, she turned wheels to right ---away from hooded military people-- in attempt to leave the scene. Perhaps not to be obstructive to traffic anymore.


So one hooded and armed with gun was at her window and one was nearing or at front passenger side corner of car, as if he could attempt to force her to stop by standing there. I think the one on front was ready to move out of way if need


So, with the wheels turned to right, and as she attempts to leave, hooded man at windows shoots her couple of times. --in head/face is certainly a kill shot I would think. And If I heard correctly this hooded man in previous year had his hand trapped in door or window of vehicle and was dragged some distance.


So here is the same man in same situation of being at window of auto with a driver, and h takes no chances of getting stuck with hand in window or door, because he has learned to shoot sooner and not take chances with gettting dragged.


Trump-adinstration labeling of this woman as terrorist is non-sense. She did a minor obstruction to some other traffic, and then attempted to leave the scene and not attempting terrorism on anyone.


What we have here is a trigger happy hooded military person who would rather shoot a person than let her drive away.

ebuc
The math says there's plenty of room by landmass for 8B people. We do not have a population problem. Our problem is poor land management and use. Our problem is greed.


I iagree greed is a problem as well as operating systems in place for that greed of humanity, above logical, common sense critical thinking, and I believe AI can used properly can help us, as I laid out clearly.


If you think its only about square area of land mass then your not considering that most of the Earth is ocean, not land.


Your not considering the actions of humanity are affecting our oceans and biologic life in them.


I think there is much you do not consider as being significant.

ebuc
Ebuc...In the long term would it really matter if there were only 8 million human inhabitants of Planet Earth rather than 8 billion...Though I'm guessing that for some time to come AI will rely upon human dexterity to be able to achieve it's universal ambitions.


All events { action/cause } have reactions/responses > Resultants/Consequences > repeat eternally in eternaly existent, dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe @.


Hi Sarge, I did not finnish the Ex CEO vid and I forget the time lines { if any } he gave AI becoming an issue beyond return for humanity.


8 billion humans is too many for an ecologically sustainable 8 billiong humans, via the the operational systems we have in place now for most countries


Of course, such ideas are based upon an inherent notion of intellectual uniqueness...And we may be right, or we may be very wrong...We and/or AI will have to wait and see if anything else eventually rocks up....Of course, we and/or AI might eventually rock up somewhere else...Unfortunately though, it is unlikely that neither Ebuc, Me or GG will be around to find out...But here's hoping.


Agreed We wait and, however, there are people in the know, that, have some decission power to steer AI in a direction that limits the chances that it can lead to destruction of humanity via this that or some other.


AI could give humanity many optional scenarios, that, ---as Bucky like to state--- ' make the world work '.


.." Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."... - Martin Luther King Jr.

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

Oops! that Grok 4 scenario is False narrative hype for E Musk.


My bad for not researching it more. The key give away I should have noticed was, there was none of the MIT scientists being interviewed.


So Sorry to Sidewalker and all.

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

Grok 4 AI predicts 7 frequency tological geometries to be found in vacuum of spacetime.


And the scientist identified 6 of them.

Go to 5:39 to get gist of this topological and geometric discovery coming out the vacuum.


It is not energy from where before there was none, is made clear by the narrator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GrkkBYBgg4

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

According to current cosmological theory, time came into being with the Big Bang. 


I dont think so and at best, we perhaps can say, that occupied space of outer surface, ultra-micro { not quantised nor quantified } Gravity ( ) and its diametric opposite ultra-micro Dark Energy )( are not considered by me as occupied space, that,


is interna-to-tube of my specific, space and time, dual invaginated, horn { approximeted } tori as physical reality --aka observe{ quantised } time--.


So again at best we can say that perhaps for the briefest moment, physical reality as observed { quantised } time dissipates from the internal existence as reality, into outer Gravitaitonal surface and then via geodesic surface trajectories to inner surface of Dark Energy.


Then invagination into the internal occupied space as reality begins again. Then pops out follows geodesic around surface to Gravity and invaginates in then back out again. Ive posted in other thread topics here before how invagination may occur more on the inner surface of Dark Energy, accumulate enough that we have the alledged Dark Inflation period of expansion, and,


that internal that numerically triangulated sine-wave ---0, 3p 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc-- of internal reality begins its overall movement from innner surface interior to the Gravitational outer surface again, until the next Big WOW! happens again repeatedly eternally.


Naught { occupied space } is lost nor created { occupied space }, only transformed eternally. Aka a sum-total cosmic cost accounting that does not change, eternally. That is known as cosmic integrity of dynamic, eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe @.


That is basis of my belief system about Universe, outer surface geodosics of Gravity, and inner surface geodesics of Dark Energy and internal triangulated ---18 combinatiorial aspects of quark and 18 anti combintorial kinds of quari, 3 generations of electron { muon and tau }, and 3 anti-generations of electron, 3 generations of neutrino{ muon and tau } and 3 generations of anti-neutrino-- sine-wave, as mentioned above.


According to theory, space also came into being with the Big Bang, all we can know about the start of the Big Bang is that it came forth from a singularity, an infinitely hot, infinitely dense, dimensionless point, that necessarily transcended time and space.


Believe in any theory you want. I direct you back to what I wrote above and elserwhere for months and years.


Current cosmological theory tells us that this is the process by which the Big Bang occurred, and the dilemma is that a process needs to occur in time and space, so what you are referring to as “eternally existent time and space” is a realm that transcends time and space.


Huh? False. No transcending time and space, as that is what the BB theory does i.e creates occupied space where before none ever existed. Illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking.


Eternity and infinity are conceptual; they only exist as semantic devices which define finite. They are words that do not have a physical referent.


False. Occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed, eternally. Finite integral set of Universe. Simple no illogical transcending of time and space as you suggest.


It necessarily would transcend the concept of “counting” or anything that mathematics can apply to.


Huh? Reread all Ive stated above, and for many months if not years at Debate and old debate forum and other groups. BB is what attempts to transcend time and occupied space, not myself or my belief system based on observation by humans. Naught is lost nor destroyed, only transformed eternally. Simple and all else lacks even basic common sense.



Again, according to current theory, space is curved, so there isn’t necessarily a “boundary”. Perhaps it doesn’t matter if it’s infinite or finite, conceptually it wraps around itself (like a sphere's surface), meaning you'd loop back if you traveled far enough, with no "outside", hence, no boundary.'s


SW, reread what Ive stated above and/or continue to believe in BB theory that transcends time and occupied space. Good Luck!


While “We cannot get out of Universe” to “see” the entire universe, our observable universe does have a boundary, but that's just how far light has traveled to us, not an edge or boundary.


False. Finite = integrity ergo whole.


Infinite = lack of integrity { whole }.


We only observe a dynamic, eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe @ and that is all that will ever be observed by any meta-space mind/intellect/concept accessing creatures of Universe. Good Luck with those illogical BB theorys!.

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

Infinite and finite are words that define concepts that we think are relevant to something.


Yes that is true, Sarge, that, those two words are relevant to each other.


They both co-exist as words, definning to specific kinds of primary space.


However, there does exist a third kind of space, called meta-space. Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts is concepts of Space:


concept of finite occupied space @


concept of infinite and truly non-occupied space <-----.................----->


concept of specific 3D { XYZ or as abc } dimensions of space


concept of specific abc-d dimensions of space, where d is the 45 degree, volumetrical diagonal from vertexial point/corner of cube we define as abc.





ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

The proof is IN the pudding... the pudding, is in the crust


1} I offer no proofs,


2} pudding is only partially embraced by crust, whereas,


3} all of the Spirit-2 { Fermions and Bosons }, Spirit-3 and Spirit-4 { Dark Energy } and eternally existent, dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe @ is embraced by,


5} the Spirit-3, as the outer most surface of ultra-micro, non-quantized and non-quantified positive geodesic, Gravitational surface ( )


6} and outside of that, the eternally existent, non-dynamic, macro-micro-infinite, truly non-occupied space,


<---macro-micro-infinite...............................................@......................................................macro-micro-infinite--->

ebuc

Finite vs Infinite

ebuc · 10 months ago

We start with two primary kinds of space:


1} eternally existent, non-dynamic, macro-micro-infinite{ non-integral beyond whole } , truly non-occupied space outside/beyond/etc of the following,


2} the eternally existent, dynamic, macro-finite [ integral whole }, occupied space Universe @


Yes, we assume/presume integrity of finite whole, we identify as Universe. In that case ive yet to see any valid, illogical in the those two, complementary aspects of one scenario/story we identify as 1} and 2}. above.


Eternity complements finite, dynamic occupied space Universe, and


Eternity may appear as more of prerequisite for non-dynamic, truly infinite and truly macro-micro, non-occupied space, because, humans, observe and then count finite spaces to a finite total { integrity }.


Ergo, humans relate our counting of a finite{s} to that, of non-count-able, macro-micro infinite and truly non-occupied space { not countable total exist there. }.


Think of it way B Fuller used to say. We cannot get out of Universe. The pure act of seeming expansive increase of the the sum-total finite set of accounting, is a transformation of bits from volumetric { area in holography } from perhaps many location to allow any expansion outward of the dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe @


Sure, in a macro-micro infinite Universe we could also say the same above, --cant get outside of and infinite and that infinite is not expanding as I stated above, because, infinite, is beyond begin maxed out. Infinite is beyond finite limits as integral whole{s}.


Running out of words to express a clarity of the distinction between finite and infinite. How bout this. Infinite can not have and outer surface area, boundary geometry, whereas, a finite must have { dynamic { non-static } or non-dynamic i.e. static, *meta-space outer pattering* }.

ebuc
I showed Mrs Lynch and she was more concerned about your spelling


Ha, my wife would agree with that totally. Issue that has dogged me since mid 90's. Thank Zed;ynch

ebuc

^^ Related to above

Here a 2013 Quanta article that may help to explain AI and LLM --tho as the 2nd paragraph on the page makes clear,-- no one really understands the exact complexities of AI mechanisms popping out what they do.


I guess I find this interesting because of my mechanical-like jobs Ive had in auto mechanics, carpentry, electrical and plumbing.

Quanta mag...' To understand how hypervectors make computing possible, let’s return to images with red circles and blue squares. First we need vectors to represent the variables SHAPE and COLOR. Then we also need vectors for the values that can be assigned to the variables: CIRCLE, SQUARE, BLUE and RED. '...


.Quanta mag link below...' The vectors must be distinct. This distinctness can be quantified by a property called orthogonality, which means to be at right angles. In 3D space, there are three vectors that are orthogonal to each other: One in the x direction, another in the y and a third in the z. In 10,000-dimensional space, there are 10,000 such mutually orthogonal vectors '...

https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-approach-to-computation-reimagines-artificial-intelligence-20230413/