melcharaz
Jesus said "i and my father are one"

God said "this is my beloved son in whom i am pleased"

So yes. The father dwelled in the man Christ Jesus.

Jesus mean YHWH our salvation or who has become/put on salvation.
Christ means anointed one/vessel

Summation. God was in the man christ Jesus. And Jesus did all in obedience to God, therefore God dwells in him forever.
"He that hath seen me hath seen the father;"
melcharaz
Voting rubric updated.

5:Votes based on a framework provided in the debate, or, if none was given, weighs arguments case by case.


6:If disagreeing with the debate's framing, the voter clearly establishes why their interpretation is more faithful and how it influences their vote.
melcharaz
If there is no consensus within half the debate on the metric, yes i can.
And i did.

You defined nothing in r1 and by r2 instigator already made half his arguements without an agreed upon metric. You gave your observations, not defintions.

Your r2:
"2: arbitrarily decided what defines ‘best villain’

The best villain according to Pro seems to be the one that is simply scariest. It clearly comes about in his ‘fear factor’ argument later that because Lalo for Pro, induced most direct fear during his scenes on a consistent basis, that this makes him the best villain.

GF is scary in a literal sense, meaning that other characters fear him as much as LS or potentially more. As Pro points out, LS feared GF from day 1 or at least respected him as a highly formidable threat. Let’s not forget that in the end GF himself ended up killing LS.

The definition of best villain, in my eyes, is the villain that has the MOST OVERALL incredible DEPTH and LEGACY in the series."

His r3
"First and foremost, what defines a villain?:

“a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime.” Villain - Wikipedia"



There is no consensus. You cannot use that against me.

I recommend that in all r1 or discriptions you lay groundwork, metrics and definitions.
melcharaz
You were the one that complained that no metric was given. Why didnt you give some in r1? Im not responsible for someone who refuses to set the bounds of their debate or argumentation.

You could have defined it or had instigator clarify it.

Since no one did till r2. How would either of you known to set the dialogue of a metric?


melcharaz
I didnt say he had superior morality. If anything i indicated he had no morality.
There is a difference between someone who violates their conscience and someone who has no conscience.
Im pretty sure i addressed the legacy as well.

Also i ranked saul and gus as having less aura than lalo.
The legacy has to do with familarity, not aura. And aura is affected by shift, impact, consistency or lack thereof.

I explained in my vote there was no metrics for determining better villian in description or r1. I cant in good faith takes something that is non foundational and backtrack based on 1 person's standards.
melcharaz
Im making vote ruling on the following premise.

1: there are 3 rounds

2: it is reasonable for people to assume opponents will utilize 3 rounds, especially if they see a forfeit.

3: with 1&2 considered, it is reasonable to expect instigator to defend against contendors arguement.

4: if 3 and neither side did so, it is logical to weigh the debate on the superior arguementation.

5: if forfeits are equal, it is reasonable to weigh arguements as if to expect a counter arguement considering 2&3

If 5,2,3 are true, then 4 is true.

I put this in premise method for kohai. But also so others understand why i voted contendor.
melcharaz
Sorry i got it backwards. Proverbs 8:36 talks about how we sin against our own soul.(proverbs 8:12-36 is wisdom of God)

Fornication is sin against the body. 1 corinthians 6:18.

God joins a man and woman together and they become 1 flesh genesis 2:24.

So fornication destroys the body.
And the soul also proverbs 6:32.


In doing this they disolve the covenant of God, because they brought death to their relationship. (Till death we do part) and death is seperation of God from a body. And they destroy the 1 flesh God joined them as.

And they are made 2 flesh again, unless there is a repentance and reconciliation. And they renew their vow.
(Assuming they didnt marry someone else)

Proverbs 6:33 the word for wound is nega. Which can be an affliction, spot, sore, mark or wound.