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Frieren Mafia

whiteflame · 6 months ago

Alright, we got 9. I'll design the game for 9 and leave sign-ups open until it's done. If more people join, I can alter it to fit.

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Frieren Mafia

whiteflame · 6 months ago

Alright, with two backups on the list, we'll see if I can get someone else to fill that 9th slot. I've still got to work on the setup, so I'll aim to start this either tomorrow or Thursday.

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Frieren Mafia

whiteflame · 6 months ago

well id played but pie is gonna ista lynch me for complying with him and he always wins so id rather not go through that again, good luck guys hav fun


Your choice, though I'll point out that technically, he didn't win the vote. He won the coin flip.

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Frieren Mafia

whiteflame · 6 months ago

There’s going to be some theme to dig through, I’m just going to make it a bit lighter than I usually do.

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Frieren Mafia

whiteflame · 6 months ago

We’ll get back to mostly normal with this one. It’s a themed game based on a recently popularized anime called Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End. For those unfamiliar with the series, it follows an elf named Frieren in her travels many years after a successful journey to do what so many fantasy adventurers aim to do: kill the Demon King! But the series is more introspective for the most part, focusing on bonds between party members and an immortal elf living in the moment.


I have a rough sketch of how I’m planning this one out, but it’s still got a ways to go and I’ll be re-tooling it based on how many people we get. Yes, there will be a theme split, but I’m going to avoid making this one too theme-heavy so that I don’t give show watchers an outsized advantage.


For now, I’ll aim for 9 players.


  1. ILikePie5
  2. RexFavilla
  3. Magoroth (low priority)
  4. Lunatic
  5. Mikal
  6. Mag1cman
  7. Banana
  8. Wylted
  9. Thoth


Backup:

Casey_Risk

Helz

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Amber Endgame

whiteflame · 6 months ago

Well, I don’t have much to add. Honestly didn’t clock Mag1c as Fiona. I get going for it under the assumption that the player they Janitored was the one who posted the message. Bold effort, didn’t pan out.


Agreed that Mestari did a great job managing that last DP.

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To be clear, I was not scum. Role card literally says I win with town, I just had a hidden wincon (activated DP1) where I could win alone.

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Sounds like as long as we agree on the method and it results in even Guilds, town wins together without a need to VTL.

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So we just talked with Mikal about this. If we agree to lynch a townie this DP and then have both guilds waive recruitment, he'll just go straight to endgame and all of town wins. You down?

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That works, Banana was scum and not just any scum, but the Ant King himself. Love to see it. Also love to see that there was apparently no NK.


So that pretty thoroughly clears Awesome and REF. As we were saying last DP, if they aren't scum together, they simply aren't scum. Banana's flip proves that isn't possible.


Mestari also looks a lot better. I assumed the Ant King was a Lone Wolf and clearly I was mistaken, but with the likely remaining scum being the White Ant, there's basically no chance that any scum had incentive to out and get each other killed.


Wryly was already pretty solid town and Pie is confirmed town.


So that leaves Kohai and Mag1c, and yes, I'm definitely looking at the former here.

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1. I view all non-town aligned players as scum even if they aren’t all mafia 


Then you’re admitting your POE is missing someone and substituting me for one of them because I could be TP? That’s your answer when you’re telling me you can’t see anyone else on that list as scum?


2. If banana flios wolf and you are town then I obviously mis cleared Mestari 


I mean… OK? Might want to consider whether you’ve mistakenly cleared him before you seek my lynch.


3. IF banana town then I think awesome / rex is the only possible team left. 

can you at least agree on point 3?


I’d have to strongly consider it if she flips town, but you and Mestari as a scum team is on my mind.

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1. Could easily be a fake claim or 3p


Yes, I could be TP, though notably, that would make me not scum. And if you think I’m fake claiming, then you have to believe Mikal’s bastard modding because I'm one of two characters he’s publicly confirmed to be in the game with flavor text, and the other was the Ant King.


2. If you’re town then I miscleared Mestari. I cannot see him as scum with anyone


As I’ve now argued multiple times, I believe the remaining scum at least started off as a Lone Wolf with incentive to kill other scum to power up. That may not be the case anymore, but I don’t think he’s cleared just because he helped lynch Thoth and Alyssa.

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Well, it looks like Mestari beat me to the hammer, so I guess we’ll see what happens.


If you're scum with banana then I'm sorry you got POEd out of a win. 


Yes, because SJW being on the scum team makes the most sense after flipping two Ants as scum. I legitimately have no idea why anyone would the claimed MC in POE with those flips on the table, but you do you, man.

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Hope you're feeling a little bit better buddy.


I'm OK, I appreciate it.


Definitely a regret post lol.


Lol, I can see that.


Odd in what way? Seems like a good way to divert a threat and hobble an enemy in one stroke.


I guess the way I'm thinking of it is that it would be odd to limit the Redirection to town players within the same Guild, though in part it's just a bit of WIFOM. Can't help but think scum would have preferred to manipulate your role over his, though maybe that's just how I'd think about it.

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Since it's been brought up now, I'll just give my thoughts on the possible REF / Awesome scum pairing.


Improbable as it is that both remaining scum would just so happen to be recruited to the same Guild, it is not beyond the realm of possibility, and since we know that scum have used a Lawyer or some similar manipulation of Wryly's result to make Alyssa look innocent, they would have had every opportunity to skew the result (assuming they still have at least one shot of it). I can't write off the possibility entirely.


I wonder how much influence REF had on the decision to recruit Awesome to the White Tiger Guild and whether that was done specifically to set up this scenario, though at this point I feel like I'm getting overly paranoid about what could be going on here. It seems like a lot of setup to get Wryly's result to look just so on REF and have it be believable, so it just seems odd that they'd feel the need to get Awesome in to assist with its believability.

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But they're not gonna do that. They're gonna fear Pie's Jailkeeper stopping another NK more than they're gonna fear me hitting the one scum they didn't lawyer. It's likelier they redirected Pie (why onto Mag1c instead of whiteflame?), and since they know he's probably gonna jailkeep Banana again, that doesn't look great for Banana.


Redirecting the JK just seems odd generally, though I can understand pushing it to an unknown role vs. an outed one.

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DP3 went up at 6:49pm. The challenge from the ant king didn't come until 7:14pm. This leads me to conclude that the Ant King had some autonomy over when the challenge was issued.

That is to say, the Ant King is among players who were either active or at least available to present the challenge around when the DP went up


That does indeed suggest that there was a trigger point. Issue is that someone could've triggered it from the scum chat, so they may not have posted publicly before activating this.

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I apologize for my absence. Today has certainly been… something… and I’ve been in the wrong headspace to post in here for much of the time I’ve had available. I will update my thoughts this evening.