whiteflame

Welcome to Barry Mafia! I've loved this show ever since it started airing and it's nice to get a theme that really fits into mafia so well, especially given how various mobs feature in this show. Huge thank you to @Mag1cman for helping me design this game, stepped in and really helped with the balancing.

To answer some of the obvious questions:

1. There is a theme split.
2. Scum can to ask two questions. Those can break out to two roles, two characters, or one of each.
3. I have not directly included anti-claim mechanics, though there may be other costs to claiming.
4. As usual, I will attempt to keep up with the DP to the best of my ability and respond to both public and private questions (with limitations).

The usual rules:

1) No editing or deleting posts of any kinds

2) No copy/pasting your role PM (please paraphrase)

3) No cryptography of any kind

4) No communication outside of the mafia game

5) No liking/upvoting posts after you die

6) No using ChatGPT/AI to paraphrase your PM

I'll add extra rules as needed.

All DPs will be 72 hours and NPs 24 hours unless the NP ends with everyone submitting actions earlier.

Remaining Players:

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Wryly
4. Vader
5. Kohai
6. Lunatic
7. RexFavilla
8. Shining
9. Cerulean

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach majority for a lynch. This day phase will end on Thursday, 12/14/25 at 11:30 AM EST. 

Yep, was going to shout out your assistance on this at the start of the DP, big help with balancing.

PMs are all out. Plan is to start this tomorrow.

So I heard! You've been added. I'll aim to have the PMs out by tomorrow, just getting another pair of eyes on the setup I've got (retooled for 9!)

Understood. I'll keep the game to 8 then.

Appreciate it. I'll keep the spot open for the next couple of days and, if no one fills it, I'll automatically add you.

It'll take me a couple of days to polish off the design for this one and make the character cards, so I should have this ready by mid-week. I'll go ahead and function under the pretense that this is going to be an 8-player game and I'll keep the design I have for 9 in the wings in case we get one more.

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. Vader
5. Kohai
6. Lunatic
7. RexFavilla
8. Shining
9. 
   

I think you're safe on that front.

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. Vader
5. Kohai
6. Lunatic
7. RexFavilla
8. 
   
9. 
   

If I have to, I'll retool the game for a smaller group, though I'm still aiming for 9.

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. Vader
5. Kohai
6. Lunatic (woo!)
7. 
   
8. 
   
9. 
   

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. Vader
5. Kohai
6. 
   
7. 
   
8. 
   
9. 
   

One of my favorite dark comedies next to Mr. inbetween

Love it too, will have to check that one out sometime! Guessing you won't be joining us this game?

We thought you'd make an easy mislynch up to a point. It was also to put some distance between the two of us, since I'd be able to argue that you were town and he'd go hard on you.

I feel you there.

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. Vader
5. 
   
6. 
   
7. 
   
8. 
   
9. 
   

Subs:

1. Kohai

Yep, boned it on the decision to lynch Wryly. Don't really regret anything else we did. And yes, I took the contract because of course I wanted to see how that would play out. Town lost a Cop and it was fun.

1. Thoth
2. Pie
3. Mag1c
4. 
   
5. 
   
6. 
   
7. 
   
8. 
   
9. 
   

Subs:

1. Kohai

I would've entirely bought Vanilla or Hated for that character.

This honestly should have been a castin win as she was never going to get lynched and probably would have if she avoided getting NKd

If she had avoided claiming or had claimed something that didn't get CC'd, yeah, I could absolutely see her just steamrolling all the way to the end.

Lol so you also thought there were two BPs?

I thought something was up, like Wryly claiming a very similar role and just simplifying it or covering for something she couldn't claim for some reason. Like you said at the time, I saw them both as town.

But still the other would have been an easy lynch

Yeah, and we considered it. Just should've put more thought into the decision.

Why wouldn’t you hammer pie and get an easy lynch on castin

The long and short of it was that we also thought they were both town and Wryly was trying something. We didn't clock a TP despite her character being on our fake claim list, ended up wavering on who to lynch and made a snap decision in the wrong direction.

Well, you got me. Genuinely just fucked up picking Wryly, made a bad call and tried to sell it as something I wouldn't have done as scum. GG.

Thoth says an RB'd target would have been informed regardless of their role, and I think both Kohai and Pie would have revealed it by now, so that makes the most likely targets Wryly or me.

Depends when Ref got the role, but given that no one who claimed a night action mentioned the RB, it's likely down to Wryly (who would have reason to conceal it), Kohai (whose Emissary wouldn't be affected), me (it would have failed) and you (the BP is passive). Not sure if either you or Kohai would have been informed if you had been RB'd, something I'll have to check with Thoth.

I also just think balancing wise, a role immune to the NP actions other than a kill and then a role with anything but the kill just feels weird

So the first refers to me, but what's the second? The BP? What's the balancing issue here?

I’ll lay out a brief summary of how I see things and then vote.

Pie is lock town at this point. I already had good reason to townread him after the CC fiasco with Wryly, though he could have made a wild gambit to get her eliminated knowing she was the TP and give himself a great deal of towncred in the process. That small possibility vanished the moment Vader VTL’d me this DP. Scum Pie would have jumped on that and ended the game, 0 doubt.

POE alone puts it down to Vader for me, but I’ll make the case.

We know that scum had every reason to kill Pie when presented with the choice between her and Wryly. I was saddled with the choice and I picked Wryly. If I was scum, I would have known she was a TP from the apparently shared fake claims list and gotten back-to-back lynches once Pie was revealed as the BP.

As for Vader, the main thing he has in his favor is that he claims to have received the Role Cop and used it on Rex, someone who was obvious scum before the DP started. He’s now saying that he could have claimed a weird report on Kohai, though Wryly also basically town-confirmed Kohai when she outed that one of the characters in that list of four was real, so I don’t know why anyone would claim that that makes sense as a tactic. Is it risky to claim he got it? Absolutely, I’d say he had a 1 in 3 chance as I spelled out last DP. Did he think it would make him town confirmed? Clearly, looking how he responded to being sussed last DP. It was an opportunity and he took it knowing that he needed some support if he was going to survive the final DP.

As for our claims, both of us claimed roles that could be either alignment. My claim is unconfirmed, but given how absurd it would be to claim it with multiple visiting roles, the only real question is whether I have it as scum.

Vader’s, though, has more holes. He’s said he was 2X, then said he didn’t have any shots left last DP without saying he’d used it again. He has some validation through the Investigator, but only insofar as we know someone else was on that visit and his role would fit that bill.

So, yes, he’s obviously my vote at this point. He’s welcome to make a more extensive case when he has the time, but my decision is a given:

VTL Vader

Well, I guess the DP's over. We can go back through this next DP, but at least we got a good amount of discussion out of this one. Just in case:

VTL Rex

But why take the risk is my point. He could’ve just as easily said that he directed Kohai to Pie without saying anything about the Rolecop. That still implicates you. REF was dying today no matter what. He was clearly the original scum, and based on OP, we know the recruit carried out the kill. And the recruit couldn’t have been Kohai. I’m basically confirmed town. So that leaves you. Doesn’t make sense to yolo

Because this is the time to do it. With a known Role Cop on the table handed out to a town player, this is his opportunity to make the next DP very short and get an easy mislynch to end the game. Any info he gets, any action he claims to take going into next DP is going to get a lot more scrutiny.

Claiming that he'd redirected a couple of you would have just invited more questions as to why he did it. Frankly, I'm still surprised he's never used it to at least confirm my role. I'm also unclear on whether he even has another shot of his Redirector since he said he doesn't have anymore shots left in post #20.

Now I'm really headed off.