ILikePie5

I had hoped we would one day be scummates since I knew you have a reputation for taking wild risks. It happened very soon after, in Suikoden. We remember how that panned out.

Honestly yall probs would’ve won if the balance wasn’t wacko

So he elaborates as kinda like a Miller but useful. Fair, but tbh would prefer a character claim for all SOP claims like that

He’s our defacto lynch anyways unless we have a better option.

Hello everyone. Nice to see Cerulean again.

Alright Earth, welcome back. Why are you town?

Anyway, VTL Pie- miss me?

Always buddy, kinda upset you went AWOL for so long lol

If you can elaborate further that would be great. Also almost an instant town read for you.

Welcome to debatecraft btw 

Why is that an instant townread?

Hm hm hm, going to be interesting to navigate around a cast I mostly don't know.

In any case, I'm hard-claiming a negative utility role that affects investigations. I can elaborate further if necessary, but would rather hold back on specifics for now.

Alright so you’re basically claiming miller. I suggest you try extra hard to find scum otherwise you’re the de facto lynch today

Alright let’s do this

If this starts before Sunday, just know that I will be AWOL

I disagree that lynching me wouldn’t have been an insta win. If you realized that Wryly was TP, after lynching me, you kill her and in a 3-2 LYLO you lynch Kohai pretty easily with Supa’s help.

MVP should go to Wryly. Basically a perfect game on her part

GGs, scum should’ve won in a landslide but the mafia gods were on our side today

This was false as an ascetic would not be told of their role. I was playing along and asked him about this. He said this was the opposite of what he told you initially.

I have no idea what ur saying lol

Where was the slip

Oh I almost forgot, I was perma roleblocked NP1. The ability was acquired by REF NP1. WF and REF were both in my POE at the end of NP1 so logically makes sense for them to perma roleblock me

Alright, so I’ve reread all the DPs. Not much going on in DP1. DP2 is where it gets interesting. Supa’s reaction to the recruitment seems genuinely like wtf is going on. I’m also respecting Mharman2’s read on Supa about that. I also think the approach to Mikal’s action was townie. The action choice and behavior sound like classic Supa.

DP3 is also interesting especially with the CC. Supa immediately votes me with his supposed plan for the night. REF comes in after followed by WF. Like I said this is a red herring for the most part cause scum REF clearly did not care about keeping Wryly alive (so this argument that WF made DP4 falls flat imo). That means the only thing he has is the yolo

Admittedly the recruitment mechanic is my biggest hold up right now, but if this was a yolo, then I can’t really do much about it. I think behaviorally Supa has been better than WF. Anyways I hate being in this position but hopefully I didn’t sell lol.

VTL Whiteflame

Let me ask yall a question. Who do yall think was Perma-Roleblocked and why?

Still would prefer u make the case

I agree.

VTL REF

The END OF THE DP SAYS IT WAS GIVEN TO A TOWNIE BRUH. Even if you think I yolo’d, if I was scum in anyway I wouldn’t have gotten it and I would’ve been CC’d. It says townie at the end of dp3. There is 0% chance 

You wouldn’t be CCed if Magic was the one that got it.

Whichever of you is scum, can yall hurry up and submit. I would like to end the game by end of tonight

I can buy the idea that REF/WF preferred to keep me alive because I was more likely to lynch Kohai the following DP. This plan was foiled though by Wryly basically outting that REF was scum.

By lynching Pie though, they could’ve secured a lynch on Wryly to win the game today though, which is where I am confused

READ THE FUCKING END THREAD I CANT BE SCUM

I can read bruh. The argument WF is making is that you yoloed it in the hope that Mharman2 got the shot. Do I believe it? Idk yet. I need to still reread the DPs

It honestly doesn’t say anything about how his recruitment works. It describes his character as granting them wishes in exchange for turning them into madical girls, but they also hide how they are either turned into a witch or die fighting one. The only mechanical thing was the Escape Wolf mention and his role he got

What does Escape Wolf do?

Yeah. I'm beginning to think it's vader over whiteflame given vader admitted to accepting the contract plus a few other things. But again I'm also going a bit insane with the recruitment mechanisms.

I need to reread all the DPs before I make a determination. It’s a matter of whether I believe REF/Supa yoloed or not

It makes sense for a REF/Vader team to lynch Wryly over me though. Cause I wouldn’t have pursued REF and would’ve settled for a Kohai lynch

If Rex's role card does mention more than 1 contract form then he is basically confirmed scum. 

Probably. Need the details though.

Rex's role card will give us tons of info.

Yea, that’s why I’m asking Supa for more details

It depends on the recruitment mechanic. It sounds custom. Based on how that works, it will give more information

What does his role are say about how the recruitment works

Thoth isn’t on rn anyways I think, we have time. I would prefer everyone submit their actions ahead of time tho