I dont think Mago as OG scum claims what he claimed. He’s either converted scum or town. That leaves
Thoth
Wylted
Mikal
Mag1c
I dont think Mago as OG scum claims what he claimed. He’s either converted scum or town. That leaves
Thoth
Wylted
Mikal
Mag1c
If you want to know my honest thoughts though, the whole discussion of a Tailor is a diversion. It doesn’t matter if he was Tailored or not. My strategy worked in that Alien game regardless of whether there was an actual yakuza or not
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #557)
The suggestion of a Tailored Yakuza like in Alien Mafia is interesting. It crossed my mind earlier, but I didn't really consider it because I don't think Banana would subject us to a Tailor. That could change if I knew someone else helped her build this game.
In that scenario though, Kohai would’ve been Town, which theoretically is possible? He claimed a confirmable role, which Mikal is the only one who has. I guess if they wanted to manipulate just like Mikal/WF, then it’s possible
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 7:54 PM (post #550)
A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?
I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.
I would’ve gone Luna/Mag1c based on people townreading them. Mikal cause he was replacement. Thoth cause he hinted at PR. Wylted cause he hinted Dreamer and that wouldn’t have been fun. Probably would’ve avoided Mago cause there was some sus there
Thoughts on #527 ?
So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 1:33 PM (post #533)
ANYWAY. My claim.
I am the leader of “Colony”. I am female, I will look up my character’s name on request, I can’t be arsed to do it right now.
People come to me for advice
I have the unique ability that, if I die to a nightkill, or if I get voted, if the person who killed me is a member of the Mafia, all votes the following day are anonymous, meaning people have to vote by PMing Banana. You can still tell us who you voted for tho
Can you format it in the same way I did:
Character
Role
Justification
My strategy with Yakuza (albeit fake) worked in Alien Mafia until Kohai hard threw
Anyways, I’m going to get back to the strategy I came up with in Alien Mafia. The goal is to find the OG scum first based on motives of everyone. It does require everyone to full claim so that we can determine those motivations.
High level, I think we can eliminate Luna from the category because of his early attention on Kohai. I know I’m not scum. That leaves:
Mag1c
Wylted
Thoth
Mago
Mikal
Mag1c is pure big brain. I can see the strategy with him and Kohai at EOD. Goal was to get REF so they could kill two birds with one stone and the switch to Pie was theatric. I think this is unlikely though, and my townread of him during DP1 was pretty solid.
Wylted is an interesting one. He’s pulled this Miller ploy before when he was scum with Luna. They basically cruised to the win in that game. I can see the same thing here. Take the fake claims. Soft claim Dreamer early and then come out with Miller.
Thoth also is interesting, but is reliant upon Wylted. In certain ways they’re intertwined. I don’t think Thoth can be the OG if Wylted is telling the truth about Miller.
Mago I can see being the OG scum. He was in the shadows (normal scum meta). The dynamic between him the Kohai was non existent. The questioning about Yakuza also came off a bit disingenuous to me, especially with the side quest of Tailor. No reason to believe there’s a Tailor or anything similar
Mikal is hard to judge as OG scum from posts. Only thing there to read is Kohai chose REX over Casey/Mikal initially. The role Mikal has though is really powerful for scum if used correctly. It basically reduces a town vote. At 3-2 LYLO, town instantly loses because they lose the ability to gain a majority. Magistrate is also an exotic role. We have Watcher, Miller, Doctor, Cop, and then a Magistrate?
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/29/2026 at 8:18 AM (post #510)
Here’s a possibility:
Kohai + Pie. Kohai yakuzas someone, who is a watcher. That someone is now Pie’s teammate. Pie claims that someone’s role.
That instantly loses if whoever Kohai Yakuzaed gets lynched first. Not taking that risk ever.
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/29/2026 at 8:18 AM (post #509)
Being investigative wouldn't help pie as there is an unclaimed cop as well.
However taking a step back to consider things is maybe a good ideal.
The counter to a cop would be a yakuzu and the miller so it's unlikely scum have a godfather. But I also think that Yakuza is a strong enough role that you could punish the person recruited by removing their vote for the next day. Which would point to Mikal/lunatic.
The associative tells between Kohai and pie are strong though. I also think lunatic taking a stand against pie created some behavior that felt off from pie. It felt like acting from Pie if that makes sense.
I was trying to avoid being lynched and get an investigation off. At that point in time, I was the only investigative role and Luna was trying to get me lynched. He still is tunneling me.
We have time to think about this though
UNVOTE
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/29/2026 at 7:10 AM (post #504)
UNVOTE
investigative. That was the one way you could be town. You weren’t producing scumreads so you could avoid the usual NP1 fearkill.
idk about yakuza mind games yet, but first thought is that I find it hard to believe they chose you based on the situation.
That’s correct. Choosing me would’ve been retarded. IMO strongest options would be you, Luna, Thoth, Wylted.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 3:45 AM (post #497)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:15 AM (post #495)
I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.
I mean if you want to explore elsewhere that's fine, we have plenty of time. But don't dismiss all the behavioral evidence against pie because you are getting weary about the push in that direction; There's well substantiated reasoning for it. It's not like we are just tenneling him for the sake of tunneling.
It really is tunneling for the sake of tunneling but okay.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:58 AM (post #493)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)
What do you think of pies claim?
Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.
I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.
Thats just not true. Scum Kohai would be getting 2 free mislynches by taking out REF there over Pie. If he goes Pie, then REF could conceivably come back tomorrow and that avenue is gone. Here, he had the association with me.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:08 AM (post #492)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)
What do you think of pies claim?
Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.
My justification is my justification. I can’t really control that.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 1:58 AM (post #486)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 12:24 AM (post #461)
Oh boy. L-1 already. Fair ig. My luck just absolutely sucks. As promised, I will full claim:
Character: Jade Herrera
Role: Watcher
Justification: I see connections that others overlook and through them, discover the secrets of the town
NP1: I watched Mag1c cause he was was my top town read. Didn’t see anyone visit him.
Why was magic your top town read? Because he didn't vote you at EOD? lol. Why wouldn't you protect thoth or wylted who were more likely hinting power roles?
I explained last DP why Mag1c was my top townread. I read Wylted as Dreamer which is why I didn’t watch him. Thoth, I still didn’t like what he did at the beginning. And the aspect of his and Wylted’s role not jiving according to him wasn’t a point in his favor. He also seemed like the obvious target so there was some WIFOM there as well.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:50 AM (post #482)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:49 AM (post #480)
It’s different for you. You suck at making coherent arguments. It helps town if you’re not on the chopping block at MYLO/LYLO cause you would fail 10/10 times 1v1ing someone like me, Mag1c or Luna.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Thank you for your service. Goodnight
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:40 AM (post #470)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:32 AM (post #275)
If we lynch pie, and he flips scum, look into kohai. Pie has been strangely avoidant of him this game, he always pressures kohai.
This almost locks Lunatic or Pie as the other OG scum if you ask me.
Explain this logic to me. If I’m Kohai and know I’m the Yakuza. Do I take the lynch on Pie first and pray REF doesn’t get replaced or take the REF lynch and frame Pie at the same time? I think it’s common sense.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 12:57 AM (post #459)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #271)
Youre conflating two separate things. My original push on Thoth was because I wanted to solve him early. Then after rereading, I saw he was basically following you with respect to Wylted. Not just me who saw it after I pointed it out. Wylted and Mag1c did as well. So then best case, we lynch scum Thoth. Worst case we solve Thoth as town.
This sounds reasonable except that I could just as well reductio ad absurdum this logic by demanding that everyone claim on day 1 so that we can lynch them if scum or solve them if town.
It’s different for you. You suck at making coherent arguments. It helps town if you’re not on the chopping block at MYLO/LYLO cause you would fail 10/10 times 1v1ing someone like me, Mag1c or Luna.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 12:55 AM (post #458)
I am ISOing Pie since he is today's top suspect
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 9:14 AM (post #259)
Also L-1 is not an intimidation tactic. It ensures there’s at least 2 townies wanting a claim from you. It’s golden rule. Common sense. I never said I’m refusing to claim at L-1. I wholeheartedly and happily will, as I’ve done all the time
I had never thought about it like that, but this is reasonable and I would have claimed at L-1 last day phase if you had pointed this out and, more importantly, were not acting like you wanted to steal my l(y/u)nch money.
Ive pointed it out multiple times in the past. It’s golden rule. Convince the 2 townies on your wagon that you’re town by any means necessary.
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/29/2026 at 12:08 AM (post #449)
I have essentially talked like this even when you first pressed me to communicate with the more observant players about my role so I could hopefully be communicating one message to you and another to others but I guess you are too dense. I think pie picked up on it but I also think it's looking more and more like he is scum.
I'm a miller. I tell people Everytime they claim miller that it would be funny if they claim PGO as miller and miller as PGO . I thought telling you to Google "wylted" + "PGO" would bring up conversations where I mentioned that in the past. I think I essentially bring it up as a way to discourage millers from claiming. As miller is not a SOP claim., but I mention it frequently as a strategy.
I know theres a cop because I am a miller. I'm a miller because I accidentally killed my brother. It's from the same scene that inspired me to claim PGO.
You are being dense though. That was so many soft claims that probably only Pie picked up on that I had to outright tell you.
Seriously? I thought you were claiming Dreamer with the whole 3 racists line that you had. Good lord.