Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/26/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #52)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #30)
Im all for it, but I need everyone else to agree with me too. This ain’t a one man show unfortunately
Agree with YOU? You mean agree with ME? Pie out here tryna take credit for my idea.
full claim dude
Simple question: do yall townread Thoth?
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/26/2026 at 10:17 PM (post #40)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 8:44 PM (post #38)
Let’s get a claim from Thoth
Thoth claim feels kind of random, especially over like kohai or casey (who will probably be inactive).
At this point I’m fine going after any of them. Thoth just feels like he’s testing the waters and playing both sides. Like first he was with everyone about Wylted is sus, and when everyone was like nah, he’s like Wylted is fine.
Your presence is requested
Let’s get a claim from Thoth
Originally Posted by Casey_Risk on 8/25/2026 at 11:06 PM (post #12)
Alright, I'm caught up, but I gotta be honest, I'm tired af and don't really have the brain power to engage deeply rn. I will say that I wouldn't expect scum Wylted to enter the game with a fake PGO claim like he did. The idea about intentionally splitting the vote is interesting. Fwiw, I haven't voted yet. Will have more thoughts in the AM
Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 10:57 PM (post #11)
Per wiki:
Sarah's biggest burden is from the voices telling her that if she did not kill everyone who arrived in the two vehicles (Jim, Tabitha, Julie, and Ethan from the RV and Tobey and Jade from the Audi), her brother would die and there would be a massacre like the last time two cars arrived the same day.
This seems like solid justification for PGO to me. Sure, there might be other details that don't fit with PGO, like the next sentence in that article, but any justification can have holes poked in it.
Okay so I’ll ask you again…do you scumread Wylted or not?
Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/25/2026 at 10:50 PM (post #7)
It has been a very long day. A few remarks:
Not sure what pie is doing with regards to pressuring Thoth to claim early. It does ping me a little bit.
I already explained. You’re also next on the list. If you both are town, god help us.
I do like Thoth's early initiative to get people to claim how they voted.
Why?
Nah he's not stupid. He's retarded!
Can confirm
hmmm or maybe not
...although Pie could have a claim ready. I've seen him run this one before I think
Im not scum, but if I was scum, you’d be right. I tend to plan very early on
Expanding on post #51, a PGO claim could be from a scum role that does not want to be visited. I wonder what that could be
So do you scum read Wylted or not?
So let's say we find out the role is a Godfather or roleblocker or something. Does that really help us that much in the grand scheme of things, when those are common to scum anyway? Just have to weigh if the knowledge is worth a potential buff.
IMO POE is our biggest friend. Doing this is basically like a free Sensor. We get solid POE, especially later in the game.
If Wylted is scum, I'd guess they chose two fake claims. Otherwise, I have no clue.
Wylted isn’t the mastermind here regardless. It would either be you, Magic, or Casey. I’m looking elsewhere rn.
If he's town I don't know what he's doing, but I know he's up to something. Hopefully its more big brained than it appears at face value lol.
I’m fine letting him cook for now. I think there’s other opportunities
You sound opposed to it. Coming from you, that's enough behavioral information that I am tempted to give into the urge to OMGUS. I would expect you to be the first person other than Mikal to exploit a bug.
Im all for it, but I need everyone else to agree with me too. This ain’t a one man show unfortunately
Why are there 2 DP1s wtf
Wylted - Sarah Myers - PGO
Pie - ??? - ???
Lunatic - ??? - ???
Magic - ??? - ???
Kohai - ??? - ???
Thoth - ??? - ???
REF - ??? - ???
Casey - ??? - ???
Mago- ??? - ???
Also before anyone says oh wow Pie is so active. Yes I am because our three year strategic plan is complete and so it’s downtime till close begins next Tuesday
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #31)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 9:36 PM (post #29)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 6:23 PM (post #20)
It's impossible for me to make an educated decision about whether to vote Yes or No without knowing what role will be revealed publicly or what advantage Mafia will gain if we vote Yes. Instead of agreeing which way to vote, I think we are better off MacGyvering this into a bargain-bin Sensor. Mafia probably know which role will be revealed and what advantage they will get if we vote Yes. If we conspire to vote roughly 50/50 and we all announce which way we are voting, and then the vote swings differently than the public claims predict, we will have a decent PoE for who lied about their vote.
Believe it or not, Thoth can fake this. But the idea doesn't seem bad. Splitting town in half and saying "there's scum in this half" could help narrow PoE in some endgames or scum v town clashes. It's limited in its usefulness, but it could be worth it.
Thoth's assumption that mafia knows what role would get revealed, and what power they would gain is interesting, possibly TMI.
Thoth is a guy we need to solve early. I’m tired of him shitting the bed at MYLO/LYLO.
VTL: Thoth
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 5:30 PM (post #23)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 4:29 PM (post #22)
I asked Banana some questions about my role, and, if I understand the answers correctly, they tilt me towards believing PGO is unlikely. I'm sussing wylted, but I guess it's possible.
The more I thought about it the more I think he's probably town doing some stupid shit that probably won't work. But I'll let him cook.
I think I know what he’s doing. But if you do too, then it’s not as obscure lol
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/25/2026 at 2:49 PM (post #18)
Isn’t it wylted’s shtick that he’s really bad at fake claiming as scum or something? I heard this before from others but idk myself, I dunno this theme however
He is, if he’s the leader of the group. Like if it was Wylted/Kohai or Wylted/Thoth, I would expect the claim to be horrible. If it was Wylted/Luna or Wylted/Magic or Wylted/Casey, I would expect the claims to check out.
Also, is it common for PGOs to claim here? I can see the arguments for it and it seems believable people would do this here
Yes, it’s an SOP. I treat it like a policy lynch though
I myself, would not do it, but then again Veteran or whatever is a rare role, I don’t think I’ve seen it more than once or twice in like 50 games or so.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 1:45 PM (post #16)
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/25/2026 at 12:42 PM (post #14)
I'm not gonna fake claim unprompted.
Why don't you do a Google search for my name with the word "PGO"
Next to it to see my prior discussions on this and cut it out fool
I mean I did think about that, you could be baiting or something. But at the same time it’s kind of an obvious play and unless mafia is precisely two people who aren’t the greatest, chances are it won’t fool them. And it still doesn’t explain getting the justification wrong. If you didn’t mess up like that in castlevania I’d be more willing to consider you were doing some kind of ploy here. I mean I am open to it, but I kind of want to hear other people’s thoughts here
The way I see it, there are 3 options:
1) He’s straight claiming his character as scum and asked about PGO
2) He asked about both character and PGO
3) He’s Town and PGO
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 1:30 PM (post #10)
As for the vote for information, yeah screw that. I am not sure it’s worth risking buffing the mafia over some information. I am mostly indifferent if people wanna go that way, I can vote that way, but my own opinion I am leaning towards a no vote.
Theres a cheese strat where we force 4 people to vote yes, and if it doesn’t go through, it’s basically confirmed that there’s scum in that pool. I don’t think Banana thought of this though
Originally Posted by Casey_Risk on 8/25/2026 at 12:55 PM (post #3)
Checking in. I have no theme knowledge this time around, in fact I had never even heard of the show before today. It does seem interesting, however.
Good to see you back
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/25/2026 at 10:47 AM (post #2)
I voted no. I think it’s better to go on the safe side and not give scum an unknown advantage when there’s no information on what that advantage is.
So how do you know the benefits outweigh the harms? Or are you just saying act like it doesn’t even exist?
come on you apes! You wanna live all day
I thought it was obvious Luna was scum. Tingle is the obvious choice for third party. Man is always the odd one out. Plus the CC was forced on Luna’s party. A pseudo Cop as a TP after being forced to CC makes zero sense. REFs behavior fit his play. Constantly asking to be killed. Why would scum ever ask to be shot? Makes zero sense. But tbf scum should’ve steamrolled us cause they tailored me, took my role and manipulated it. Only reason we were in it was cause Thoth messed up and mod confirmed a couple of people
VTL: Mag1cman
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 8:47 PM (post #255)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/18/2026 at 7:44 PM (post #254)
Has Mag1c posted a reads list yet?
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/80/majoras-mask-mafia---first-day?page=7&comment_number=188
This is the closest thing to reads hes posted. He used this as an argument against me for him providing reads lol
Okay thanks. I’d look it up but multitasking with the girl
