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Moderator warning: Do not copy and paste directly from your PM. Also refrain from discussing the actual wording of the win condition. This type of discussion extremely close to what would typically be mod kill able. Do not discuss the is further and do not read into the alignment of any players with regard to this post. 


Well this mod confirms both Thoth and Mikal lol. Thanks lmao


ILikePie5
The instant agreement of the PM structure. If I was baiting and that was not in PM he risks getting caught. Scum would be risking a bait to say that 


Wouldn’t it depend on if scum were given town’s wincon?



ILikePie5
Kohai said flavor is NAI, which makes me think that, even if we knew one scum character, we would not be able to guess the other, but I could be wrong.


He said there’s no theme. What does that have to do with anti claim.


At the risk of providing fodder one of those nasty anti-claim mechanics, I'm going to say that my character is one of the more well-known ones from the 90s/early 00s. I'm willing to infer that most or all characters in here are also well-known, which makes the pool of likely inclusions shallow enough that fake-claiming characters could be risky, especially since Kohai said nothing about mod-provided fake-claims. Town might also have an investigative role that can check characters. This means that scum are likely to straight-claim their characters. Therefore, town could plausibly have anti-claim mechanics.


That is not a logical conclusion lol. If Town has a character cop, then the game is designed where scum have to fake claim. Even if scum are forced to claim their characters, that doesn’t mean town has anti claim mechanics.

ILikePie5
Potentially plenty, if scum straight-claim their characters. The chance of scum straight-claiming their roles is inherently close to zero, but Kohai said in the OP that flavor is Not Affiliation Indicative.


What does that have to do with anything?

ILikePie5
You know what else does not add up? Three votes to a majority. The only way that could have turned into an accidental firing squad is if three people voted within a window narrow enough that they either did not see each other's vote or could plausibly claimed not to have seen them, and people would probably treat those triplets as having one or two confirmed scum.


You were the one that suggested it, now you’re like it’s fine? That’s a major flip flop

ILikePie5

Post 97 from Thoth bothers me a lot. First he proposes the whole “Commit” thing for pressure, then he just goes and adds his vote onto Max anyways and says he’s not responsible if things go sideways.


This is coming off of last game where we had a quickhammer and he explicitly said: “Do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire,” later on after being hammered and in my PSA thread.


It doesn’t add up behaviorally

ILikePie5

iLikePie - ??? - ???

Thoth - ??? - ???

Lunatic - ??? - ???

awesome5000 - ??? - ???

Airmax1227 - ??? - ???

Rex - ??? - ???

Vader - ??? - ???

Mikal - ??? - ???

Whiteflame - ??? - ???

unsaid - ??? - ???


ILikePie5
Kinda mod pysch but I don’t think David randomized it 


I think one person originally from DC and one of the newer people to the site would be a solid selection if he didn’t randomize it. Unsaid and Awesome are both experienced players. Usually new players are noobs, and they end up town, but these guys seem like vets.


so have a feeling a scum would be between myself, pie, Luna, max and wf 


First 3 are town block. Add WF as well albeit a little less. That leaves Max.



Probably one scum in Max, REF, Vader

One scum in Thoth, Unsaid, Awesome with an emphasis on the latter 2

ILikePie5
Don’t know unsaid well enough to form a read but the throwing shit around everywhere thing is usually an old meta and typically a town tell. Mafia have no reason to “make something stick” this early. If anything it just draws unneeded attention to him.


It’s basically Mharman’s scum tell. Just does random shit all of DP1 to seem like he’s scum hunting

ILikePie5
Eh, screw it. If there's pressure, I might as well add some, and with three votes remaining, it ain't gonna be my fault if someone misfires.


Weren’t you the one who just said that we should do the whole “Commit” thing?

ILikePie5
Given how sternly kohai warned us all that claiming is at your own risk, I'm curious as to whether or not town could have any anti-claim mechanics, although, for obvious reasons, I am emphatically not asking any townies with anti-claim mechanics to say so.


What’s the utility of that for townies?


ILikePie5
hes saying factional a lot. Wonder if there is tp


Wouldnt be surprised in a 10p game. 7-2-1 is usually the balance, but never played in a game of his. Hopefully his modding skills aren’t as bad as his playing skills

ILikePie5
There's a mandatory lynch on the table. I haven't asked, but I'm pretty sure that means we can't abstain from a lynch even if we VTNL. We will eliminate someone every DP, regardless of ties or lack of majority votes.


Okay, adding WF to the townblock for this comment


Townblock: Pie, Mikal, Luna, WF

ILikePie5

Just so everyone knows, I’m going to try hard this game, cause I’m pissed off at last game. Please protect me in the night, I will literally hard carry like I did last game

ILikePie5
1) eveyrthing about what I am is unbalanced. So I don’t think rolls are traditional 

2) my justification and character really make little sense. So if and when I claim. Warning in advance 

3) Luna is town lock. 15 mins ago he asked for his character and David said he forgot to message him. This is mod confirm. 


Wonderful, we have a solid townblock going: Pie, Mikal, Lunatic.

ILikePie5

Welcome to DC Mafia, couple of questions:


1) Have you played mafia before?

2) Have you played forum mafia before?

3) If yes to any of these questions, are you familiar with common roles and mechanics?

ILikePie5

Current Games:


Kohai's nostalgia game


Sign-ups:

 

Suikoden Mafia hosted by Rex

 

In the Hopper:


REF - Suikoden Mafia

Thoth

Whiteflame - Frieren Mafia

Vader - Heartbreaking Chicago Bears Moments

Pie - MAGA Mafia


On Hold:

 

AnonymousIcon

Wylted - Lulsec

Savant


ILikePie5
People get things wrong sometimes. is what it is


It’s not that he got it wrong. It’s just lacking common sense. Luna got it wrong last game. He didn’t lack common sense. His entire methodology was fine based on Thoth’s behavior the game. I can believe that.


What Kohai did was just plain retarded lol and lacked any common sense

ILikePie5
To note from his pov i was making the case it could be you and wf. I was not saying it’s only you and him. I was spinning it to that being the primary sus for me 


Thats my point though, if you and him both agree that it’s WF/Pie, why are you so adamant on killing Pie first over WF.


Answer to that is cause you thought Pie/Kohai was an option, which it never was


but if it wasn’t that. It was wf and you and as town it should no matter who dies first. He didn’t think he was scum. He thought you and wf were both scum and I exploited that and basically said I agree. So if they are both scum then why not kill you first 


But why should you care who dies first?


way worst blunders have happened. Mharm literally lost by a misvote a few games back lol


Same thing happened this game lol. The greasy vote Unvote bs is just dumb