The plan is simple. We have to work around Kohai. If he’s town, he will definitely be NKed tonight or tomorrow night because of the whole 2-1 scenario where he can take a member of scum with him. But, if he is scum, we can only kill him when it’s 2-1. Cause even if he kills someone, there’s a townie alive to win the game.
Long story short, we have to work around Kohai. And we can’t use behavior to do that. We need the roles so we can find his (potential) scum partner
Then there's a possibility that Vader is the other scum and Casey picked whiteflame to convert, then whiteflame concocted this information handoff scheme to throw off suspicion.
We need Supa to confirm what he actually is before we can proceed. If he doesn’t claim a non-human or non-alien then things will get spicy
Pie - Ellen Ripley - ???
REF - MUTHUR - ???
Mikal - Engineers - ???
Wryly - Wendy - ???
Kohai - The Xenomorph - Vengeful Townie
Whiteflame - David 8 - ???
Vader - ??? - ???
Casey - Dr. Wren - Mafia Yakuza
Thoth - Facehugger - Apportioner
Pie - Ellen Ripley - ???
REF - MUTHUR - ???
Mikal - Engineers - ???
Wryly - Wendy - ???
Kohai - The Xenomorph - Vengeful Townie
Whiteflame - David 8 - ???
Vader - ??? - ???
I can, though I'm unclear if he knows the same information, at least not based on what Luna sent me. I'm good with revealing it regardless since we have most of the claims on the table, though Supa's claim may be relevant.
He prob doesn’t, but his claim shouldn’t change things imo. He’s basically linked to it via his role. And if he was converted, he doesn’t have a reason to like about his town character
Are you comfortable revealing the info now since only Supa hasn’t claimed and he’s the source of that info
Can you replace Vader if he doesn’t show up in like 5 hours. Time delay is a stupid tactic
Your turn
So what’s Kohai saying since u can talk to Xenomorphs
Gut feel right now is that Mikal and Kohai are town, which leaves Vader, REF, WF, Wryly
U mean Pie lol
I agree has to be everyone or abort. Are you good with character claiming? We can at least popcorn that to move it forward
Yep I’m fine with that. I’m Ellen Ripley. I’ll popcorn to WF
Vader hasn’t agreed anyway, so I think we should just abort until he gets on
Our goal should be to identify the one scum who is forced to fake claim and lynch them. Cause the other scum will just claim their true role to begin with. We have to lynch them today or tomorrow. That should be our first priority
Yeah if you've got results report them obviously but I fail to see any town utility in me outing my role when I did nothing last night, and I think it's very scummy that Mikal is fishing for it. How on earth could that 'info' help town at all? I did nothing, I interacted with nobody. All it does is help scum find good targets and narrow down the power roles.
What better plan do you have? Nothing from DP1 is reliable in terms of behavior. DP2 has had nothing at all. WF/Supa have info that can be used for character analysis apparently
Vader being AWOL is annoying af
I'd like to learn this as well. I'll say that the information I received is very likely from a role I can't imagine scum having.
Issue is that now that person can also be scum with the Yakuza
When will u be able to mass claim
Only two people haven’t confirmed yet and that’s REF and Vader
The soft claim doesn’t do much. The universe is wide. At least character claim if you have the chance
Looks like you chose WF. Why did you choose WF?
Confirm that you’re going to full claim at noon CST with everyone else
Why? The existence of a recruiter makes it completely insane. For one scum, affiliation is 100% disassociated from role. All a mass full claim will do is let them know exactly who to target to pick off whatever investigative roles could help us to find them.
The goal is to find that one scum who has always been scum. Luna explicitly said he didn’t give mafia fake claims. Whatever that one person claims will likely be fake or easily counterclaimed when we all claim at 12pm cst
Yeah. Is it better than taking over a top-tier player who is widely townread? Personally, I'd take the latter route.
Who do you think fits this characterization?
Confirm you will full claim at noon tomorrow
lol literally posted about the same thing above. I want to hear from everyone first.
ima be honest, I really dislike a lot about your claim and play. You softed a power role to "fuck with mafia as you put it". Which is convenient after I said you could confirm me. Granted, I knew you could be passive so it's still possible this is truth. It's just a very good out which is why I did not want to say shit until you claimed. I want to hear from everyone else first and dissect from there.
My play was pro-town based on my role
who would you target as the kill?
Kohai is the clear target based on his role, but he’s also a prime Yakuza target. Second pick I dont know cause the day was ended before I could get behavioral reads from people. I probably would’ve picked you because your reaction to the hammer seemed genuine, and I townread it.
I agree with your math. We shouldn’t touch Kohai till 2-1 LYLO. And at 2-1 LYLO, lynch him and him only
Actually, the alternative is to wait till LYLO. If it’s 3-2 we have to identify the scum partner if Kohai is scum. Cause in a 2-1 LyLO, his death as scum results in a town win with one townie still alive
We’re basically forced to lynch Kohai here as you pointed out. It’s just a matter of if he’s town, who do you want to shoot. If he shoots wrong, the game is over on the spot. 5-2, 4-2, 3-2 + NK = 2-2
only other reason to do that is if you are baiting a nk. You aren't claiming pgo so we have to assume the recruit went through and if you come out and claim bomb or beloved, I am prob death tunneling you.
Im none of those 3 roles
