ILikePie5
I agree has to be everyone or abort. Are you good with character claiming? We can at least popcorn that to move it forward


Yep I’m fine with that. I’m Ellen Ripley. I’ll popcorn to WF



ILikePie5

Our goal should be to identify the one scum who is forced to fake claim and lynch them. Cause the other scum will just claim their true role to begin with. We have to lynch them today or tomorrow. That should be our first priority

ILikePie5
Yeah if you've got results report them obviously but I fail to see any town utility in me outing my role when I did nothing last night, and I think it's very scummy that Mikal is fishing for it. How on earth could that 'info' help town at all? I did nothing, I interacted with nobody. All it does is help scum find good targets and narrow down the power roles.


What better plan do you have? Nothing from DP1 is reliable in terms of behavior. DP2 has had nothing at all. WF/Supa have info that can be used for character analysis apparently

ILikePie5
I'd like to learn this as well. I'll say that the information I received is very likely from a role I can't imagine scum having.


Issue is that now that person can also be scum with the Yakuza

ILikePie5

The soft claim doesn’t do much. The universe is wide. At least character claim if you have the chance

ILikePie5
Why? The existence of a recruiter makes it completely insane. For one scum, affiliation is 100% disassociated from role. All a mass full claim will do is let them know exactly who to target to pick off whatever investigative roles could help us to find them.


The goal is to find that one scum who has always been scum. Luna explicitly said he didn’t give mafia fake claims. Whatever that one person claims will likely be fake or easily counterclaimed when we all claim at 12pm cst



ILikePie5
Yeah. Is it better than taking over a top-tier player who is widely townread? Personally, I'd take the latter route.


Who do you think fits this characterization?

ILikePie5
lol literally posted about the same thing above. I want to hear from everyone first. 

ima be honest, I really dislike a lot about your claim and play. You softed a power role to "fuck with mafia as you put it". Which is convenient after I said you could confirm me. Granted, I knew you could be passive so it's still possible this is truth. It's just a very good out which is why I did not want to say shit until you claimed. I want to hear from everyone else first and dissect from there. 


My play was pro-town based on my role


who would you target as the kill?


Kohai is the clear target based on his role, but he’s also a prime Yakuza target. Second pick I dont know cause the day was ended before I could get behavioral reads from people. I probably would’ve picked you because your reaction to the hammer seemed genuine, and I townread it.

ILikePie5

I agree with your math. We shouldn’t touch Kohai till 2-1 LYLO. And at 2-1 LYLO, lynch him and him only

ILikePie5

Actually, the alternative is to wait till LYLO. If it’s 3-2 we have to identify the scum partner if Kohai is scum. Cause in a 2-1 LyLO, his death as scum results in a town win with one townie still alive

ILikePie5

We’re basically forced to lynch Kohai here as you pointed out. It’s just a matter of if he’s town, who do you want to shoot. If he shoots wrong, the game is over on the spot. 5-2, 4-2, 3-2 + NK = 2-2

ILikePie5
only other reason to do that is if you are baiting a nk. You aren't claiming pgo so we have to assume the recruit went through and if you come out and claim bomb or beloved, I am prob death tunneling you.


Im none of those 3 roles

ILikePie5
That really seemed like a soft of a power role. 


Like I said, I was trying to fuck with scum too



Either way we need to prob full claim. We need to set a time and all claim at the same time or popcorn. Don't think we have a choice given davids role.


I agree. I’m free whenever, but tomorrow at noon CST seems reasonable

ILikePie5
You were softclaiming a power role but don't have one?


No. I was soft claiming my role and fucking with mafia in the process

ILikePie5
I also dislike this. I know it's a possibility but the way you feigned saying not to protect you or whatever you said heavily implied you had a power role. Assuming you were saying that to make mafia not target you. 


Yes, I was soft claiming and fucking with mafia as well

ILikePie5

Ok, Luna confirmed that he did not make a mistake, so either you’re lying, or you were fucked with, cause I’m not lying. I have no reason to lie

ILikePie5
Ngl this bothers the fuck out of me too. There is not even consideration of a TP, or some other scenario. It's an affirmative statement. 


The “affirmative” statement was wrong. And why would I consider a TP in a 9p game

ILikePie5
Assuming 2 scum

we have 7 players so (5-2)

if mislynch 6 players (4-2)

If a Nk goes through 5 players (3-2)



if we kill kohai tomorrow and he is scum 4 players (3-1)
he shoots someone 3 players (2-1)
If a Nk goes through 2 players (1-1) Game over


is this not correct?


Okay ya you’re right, the no NK threw me off. So we’re forced to lynch Kohai today

ILikePie5
yes you need to claim first because you should know I targeted you and that also makes me uneasy. 


I’ll wait for Luna to respond he didn’t make a mistake, and then I’ll claim.