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where?


In the previous DP.


is that his actual claim or what we are lazily assuming his claim is?


That’s what he claimed.




ILikePie5
do u know that for fact or are we just assuming that?


Mikal basically confirmed that yesterday.


so why wouldnt that answer apply to rex? assuming awesome is town is the only way 2 know the result wasnt tampered with which imo is assuming a lot 


Ok. If REF is scum is claiming Miller, why would he lawyer himself?




ILikePie5
how did she get an innocent on alyssa and a guilty on you?


We determined that on me, it was probably the fact that I was in a different guild. As for Alyssa, the running theory is that she was Lawyered

ILikePie5
if awesome is scum then the motivate didn't work and the results are meaningless. rex is likly scum fmpov but i doubt he gets lynched if u guys are buying the results


Forget about who were going to lynch be not lynch. Help me unpack this.


If you think Awesome and REF are scum and Wryly is town, how did Wryly get an innocent result on REF?

ILikePie5
#52 seems kinda genuine. dammit Banana quit finding ways of giving me pause


The outrage doesn’t mean anything. She faked it all game in Game Show Mafia

ILikePie5

I think Banana is basically outted at this point. I doubt she’s the Redirector/Deflector. Makes more sense that she’s a Lawyer with the innocent on Alyssa

ILikePie5
Nah, you would've known they wouldn't send her to do the NK again on the chance Shining would flip town


My thought process was that I could choose someone else, but the odds of me catching scum were like less than 20%. I figured Banana was likely to be scum and at the very least, I can prevent her from committing any other actions.


The problem here is that Mag1cman’s action failed last night, which means I was deflected off of Banana or redirected, but Banana couldn’t have done either of those actions.

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Alright, without knowing your plan, it makes sense here that Awesome and REF are lean town. Odd way to run a Strengthener, but makes sense. That leaves


Banana

Kohai

Mestari


and Mag1c to a lesser extent

ILikePie5
Based on your interpretation of the conversation, do you feel he was baiting one of you into taking bullet by challenging the king?


He was thinking of things to say in response to the quote. But he never told us to say anything. It was me who told wylted to just say yes for the memes

ILikePie5
 asked these questions days ago. Strengthener would negate those roles.


I’ve asked them myself just now. I want to know if Wryly herself considered them before committing to this investigation



ILikePie5
Was there any discussion in guild chat about the Mod Narrative event that led to Wylted's death prior to Wylted challenging the king and dying?


Yes, which is why he posted the quotes that SJW says

ILikePie5
Come on guys


I don’t think you’re getting me.


Without a Strengthener, there’s a 50/50 shot you get an inno on REF right?


Supposedly with strengthening it’s 100% shot you get an inno on him, assuming he’s town



Did you ask how Godfather or Lawyer would interact?

ILikePie5

Bruh at this point u need to reveal everything. You realize yall could’ve recruited scum Awesome lol

ILikePie5
Mestari is tricky. I think a lot of people are quick to write him off as town because he was very effectively scum hunting and helped take down both Thoth and Alyssa. In almost any other game, I would agree and view him as almost certainly town. But this isn't a usual game. The activation of the Ant King mid-game makes me question whether scum have a player who is/was separate from the main scum team and sees a benefit in taking down much of the scum team to boot. The Ant King activated only after the Ant Queen was lynched, so yes, I could see that as either part of their wincon or just a way to take over and run the team on their own. Thoth and Alyssa would probably have flamed out without his help, so I can absolutely see wanting to change things up to put both himself and the remaining member of the scum team in better position. This theory is not a reason to outright scumread him, but it colors my perspective of behaviors I was reading as townie for much of the early game.


I’ll second this argument. A Lone Wolf who has no idea who his scum partners are makes sense to me. It’s the perfect cover.

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I think if we get it down to one scum, we should have an easier path.


I was right in the fact that Vader was the logical NK last night, and the fact it don’t happen implicates Banana.


Even if there was a Bus Driver, they would have to Bus Driver Banana and Vader. Vader makes sense, dunno about Banana

ILikePie5
I know who it is and the result but we are waiting on some answers from Mikal. Once we have them we may be able to confirm two players.


As scum or town?

ILikePie5
My worry is the SJW is a TP who can choose to side with scum, not that he was given as a fake claim.


It’s possible, but that still leaves 2 scum out there. WF worst case has shown a willingness to work with town. It’s just unfortunate that town is plagued by inactivity

ILikePie5

Same issue as above with the Cop. It has to be a fake claim, and Town would have basically no investigation role

ILikePie5

If Mikal gave scum SJW as a fake claim, I don’t even know what to even say. I’ll just take the L, cause the justifications have also been pretty crappy.