ILikePie5

Why would u reveal that 🤦‍♂️

I'm suprised you didn't harass me last NP.

I did, but we had bigger fish to fry too, so it was wtv. Tomorrow you’re gonna be under a magnifying glass to see your head, thorax, and abdomen

Also can we not take an eternity to submit nightactions like last time. I literally had ants in my pants from all the waiting (pun intended)

I’m still typing and would appreciate it if you waited

i will hammer

Sure. Prob wanna post full reads in case no one heals you

Hammer your buddy, Pie.

Man you’re gonna feel so silly

How do you know he isn't raging in discord lol Maybe thats why Alyssa got pissed and quit. I can see pie demoralizing his team by calling them all idiots lol

Uk me lol, I would’ve quit.

I remember Pie saying he wouldn't give his partner a bad claim but I do remember him saying that as scum, so maybe, but Alyssa isn't some new player.

Why would I say that as scum? And point me to where I said that. Creating fake claims with characters, roles, and justifications is what I do first thing. You’d be psycho to think I’d let Thoth claim what he did

If I was right about pie after so many people told me to drop my push on him I might retire from debatecraft mafia.

My reputation is correct. But I am town

I’ll probably hammer in a bit

why?

Gut feeling

idt thats the actual role she claimed just what we have been callin it. i dont think it changes much tho with the other factors regarding alyssa

Agreed

Aight im here

There’s also the consideration of the 3 names Thoth put up yesterday: REF, Helz, Alyssa as being Jin Woo.

Its interesting because if Thoth/scum made these up, then its interesting to put REF (who had already soft claimed) and Helz (who had hard claimed) in the same list as Alyssa

It’s almost as if they were wanting us to lynch Alyssa because everyone townread REF and Helz for the most part. Another “distancing”

Who the fuck is David and who the fuck is skep. Helz I honestly can't find anything about them that makes me feel they are town. I don't scumread them either. I just feel like they are present without being meaningful.

David = Kohai and Skep = REF

I feel like scum!Alyssa would be more likely to not tell anyone that part of her ability, have town run her up minutes before EoD (because people always don't want to end day early), and hope there's not enough people to run her up again

Is this just exclusive to her or everyone else as well?

To expand on the airmax slot being scum. Part of it is mod psych, but I won't get into that. Part of it is Alyssa's defense of Thoth, assuming she is scum. Alyssa is too good to defend an obviously caught scummate, especially so desperately. I think scum!Alyssa only acts the way she did if she feels she has to. That indicates desperation. Going from 4 mafia to 3 DP1 is not cause for desperation. But if your team is inactive, or worse, mia? That calls for desperation and trying to save the ones who are still contributing. Savvy?

She came in hard by voting Thoth. That’s like the first thing she did after the RVS at the beginning. It makes sense to do this to create distance and just hard bus. The problem is that she was implicated as well, so she had to pseudo-defend herself as well. Behaviorally she’s scum, and mechanically she’s scum as well imo cause of the whole Motivator thing

Please full claim

I’m fine getting claims from Awesome, Shining, and Casey

I think the lynch today being Alyssa is a given. Not even a peep from her in a while.

The questions is who to pursue after

wdym elaborate? lol it's as simple as I gave. The dude hid all DP, only to not have a thought on the most talked about person, who just flipped scum

Fair enough

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/3l/solo-leveling-mafia---dp1?commentId=69cea7829bc71fa86514cb72

Ya this post specifically says only one part is confirmable. Motivator is also confirmable

Before I vomit a wall on the thread how would you summarize your view of the Alyssa situation?

The semantic argument is weaker than the waiving of the Motivator. I’m still reading on what she exactly said. Cause Motivator is also confirmable.

The lack of using the Motivator is bothering me the most. I can still buy the semantics, but logically it makes zero sense to waive especially when you know there isn’t going to be an NK.

Mestari went from lean town to solid town after Thoth's flip, since he was the one who caught Thoth. Shining is now solid scum in my book. Not having a read on Thoth is much worse now that we have the flip. And me being poisoned makes me think I'm on the right track scumreading Shining, Helz, Pie, and Kohai.

Expand on Shining

I think at the very least if mass claim is u popular I think we get claims from awesome, shining and banana at the very least. Maybe Vader. But these are the most inactive slots. Might be good to lock them in so we aren’t constantly worried about scum skating under the radar

I think if we do mass claim it should be orderly

One of my guild mates is strongly against a mass claim and I get there reasons for it. But I figured this would be worthwhile to discuss with the rest of town. And gather some opinions on.

Is the other person who you recruited Town to you?

Both whiteflame and Pie seem underactive tbh, but I'm willing to take it with a grain of salt considering the size of this game.

Compared to who lol. I’m probably Top 3 posters lol

I question scum!Thoth putting any of his scummates in a fake POE.

He has 3 partners right? I’d put 1 in there if I was scum. Namely, Alyssa

Yall know Alyssa the best. How are her fake claiming skills?

Anyone else not mentioned is more or less null, but I am interested in Pie regardless of how this lynch flips.

You really think I would give a shitty fake claim like that to Thoth? Put some respect on my name lol