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I’m from the scarlet moon empire which is the major antagonist of this game

As am I. Honestly Mikal is lock town

Kohai
My pm all but tells me directly there is a recruit role in this game and not like a mason.

Based on my role PM as well I am in agreement with this. I wonder if we actually have a scum team or if it just town vs a cult.

Kohai
I have never seen a kinder thing wished for someone. So touching.


I’ll try and up it: May you never need to use a public toilet.

Kohai

Suikoden Mafia

Kohai · a year ago

1. Pie

2. Mikal

3. Shinning

4. Lunatic

5. Vader

6. Magic

7. Victor

8. Airmax

9. Thoth

10. Whiteflame

11. Kohai

12.

13.


Against my better judgement

Kohai

Suikoden Mafia

Kohai · a year ago

1. Pie

2. Mikal

3. Shinning

4. Lunatic

5. Vader

6. Magic

7. Victor

8. Airmax

9. Thoth

10.

11.

12.

13.


Sub/Extra

Kohai

Wryly


Maybe

Whiteflame

Moozer


Kohai

Congratulations to the mafia on their win!


Mafia: ILikePie, RexFlavius

Town: Thoth, Lunatic, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Mikal, Whiteflame, Unsaid


The setup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2Nh9xsbiI7Qwd9hEtj6wzCSuLQnTno3r-ERP8jd5HY/edit?usp=sharing


Night actions

Mikal - Sings a song to Awesome5000

Unsaid - Desperado whiteflame

Whiteflame - Cop awesome 

Airmax - neighborize Mikal 

Lunatic - Jailkeep pie 

Mafia kill Thoth and Lunatic

Mafia anti claim Airmax and Mikal 

Results

Unsaid, Lunatic, and Thoth are dead. 

Whiteflame gets a town result on awesome


Anti-claim mechanic:

I warned everyone in advance that there were some nasty anticlaim mechanics. The mafia had the ability to permanently roleblock anyone in the day phase that claims. In addition, if the entire town claims then they could permanently roleblock the entire town. If 3 or more players claim they could permanently role block 2.


The purpose of the anticlaim mechanic is to punish town for mass claiming when it was not warranted and for focusing too much on claims and flavor rather than behavior. Over the past several games town focused too much on their character and role rather than behavior. This has caused town to lose in several of the past games. On day phase 1 not only did town lynch their tracker they ended up with 3 town folks claiming. This made the mafia job so much easier by being able to block the PRs that claimed and kill the remaining PRs.


Perhaps this was too harsh on town, but town needed to learn some harsh lessons about when to claim and how to claim. In general, town should only claim when they have a meaningful result to share or if they they are an important PR and will soon by lynched. Two folks claimed on day phase 1 that were in absolutely no danger of being lynched.


This should have been an easy town win given the setup, but hidden within it was a self destruction mechanism should town should decide to focus too much on claims. As I predicted, this setup was too town sided for their own good and the town sidedness ended up being their down fall.


A few modding mistakes

This was my first game modding in years so I do apologize for some of the issues that I made. One of the major mistakes I made was in regards to Awesome's role PM. I was doing some last minute editing and forgot to include the win condition "you win when all threats to town have been eliminated." Awesome asked me if he was town or mafia and I had simply stated he was town and apologized from there. I never thought that was going to be an issue until....


Modkillable Offenses

There were at least two offenses that would have been instant modkills if this was played on MU. On day 1 (post 11) Mikal directly copied and pasted the win condition "I win when all threats to town have been eliminated." This is directly quoting in part from a PM. This is something I take extreme offense to, especially when this specific wording was not publicized. Thoth later (day 1 post 96) wrote "Other than the obvious of confirming that my card says I win when all threats to town are bye-bye." Both of these would have been a very stern final warning or an instant modkill on other websites. This caused Awesome some trouble since he didn't have the exact wording that I used with the other roles and used that to later sus Mikal. I felt the need to publicly warn folks not to copy and paste from their PM. Scum got very angry with me as they saw it as mod confirmation that the language was correct and in return I offered compensation in the form of a second NK. This was in lieu of modkilling two players.


OGI

OGI is extremely banned and frowned upon in other mafia spaces. There were at least two instances of OGI influencing reads: (1) Mikal arguing that Lunatic is confirmed town due to me forgetting to send them their role PM; and (2) Airmax being town due to him being AWOL and not having enough time to think of a fake claim. The first reasoning is very flawed as I very well could have forgotten to give Lunatic a mafia PM. At the time Lunatic messaged me he had no idea which alignment he would be. This would have been much better if Lunatic resolved it only in private and not in public. This should never have been seen as alignment indicative.


MVP: I likepie is being awarded the MPV for very obvious reasons. He was yelling at me in the mafia chat and was ready to give up. Pie continued playing and ended up with a win.


Due to the modding errors negatively impacting them both Awesome5000 and Lunatic are being awarded no contest.

Kohai

White flame was killed he was innocent. It is a mafia victory.


awesome and lunatic are being awarded no contest. I’ll explain more in the endgame

Kohai

Vote Count


Awesome (1/4) Mikal 


Not voting: (5/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Awesome (1/4) Mikal 


Not voting: (5/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Awesome (1/4) Mikal 


Not voting: (5/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Awesome (1/4) Mikal


Not voting: (5/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


Kohai

Welcome back to 1990s-2000s Nostalgia Mafia! 


Link to DP1: https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/19/1990s-2000s-nostalgia-mafia-dp1


Lynched day phase 1


Vader - Steve from Blues Clues 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Steve from Blue’s Clues that first premiered in 1996. Throughout the show you are tasked with tracking down clues that your beloved dog, Blue, left behind. You then sit at your “thinking chair” to determine what those clues mean and what Blue wants you to do. This makes you the town tracker. Each night you can select a player and you can find out who, if anyone, they visited. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. 


Died night phase 1


Thoth Jimmy Neutron 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Jimmy Neutron from The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius that first premiered in 2002. During the course of the series you invented a lie detector that you often use for your investigations. You are thus the lie detector. You may each night quote a statement that contains one self-contained piece of information made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is completely true, partially true, or completely false. You cannot use this to confirm alignment (ie if someone simply states “I am town”). You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. 


Lunatic - Steve Irwin from The Crocodile Hunters

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Steve Irwin from The Crocodile Hunter that aired from 1996-2004. As a host you taught children and adults of all ages the beauty of nature and showed them how to wrestle a crocodile. Each night you may “wrestle a crocodile”. You will prevent that person from being able to use any night actions in addition to rendering them untargetable by all night actions. You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. 


Unsaid - Courage from Courage the Cowardly Dog 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Courage from Courage the Cowardly Dog that first premiered on November 12, 1999. You are, well, cowardly; however when duty calls you step up to the plate and often rescue your owners. This makes you the cowardly 1-shot desperado. You may once per game select a target to be killed during a night phase.If the target is scum, the Desperado's kill attempt will be successful, and the Desperado will live. If the target is not scum, the Desperado will die, and the target will live. You are cowardly - if you successful eliminate a mafia member you will gain courage and obtain a 1x watcher role that you can use the next night phase only. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. 


Player list:

1. iLikePie

2. Thoth - Died night phase 1

3. Lunatic - Died night phase 1

4. awesome5000

5. Airmax1227

6. Rex

7. Vader - Lynched day phase 1

8. Mikal

9. Whiteflame

10. Unsaid - Died night phase 1


Kohai

Vote Count

Vader (5/6) Mikal, Rex, Lunatic, whiteflame, pie

Awesome5000 (3/6) Airmax,Vader, Unsaid

Mikal (1/6) Awesome5000


With 5 votes Vader was lynched. He was innocent. Night actions are due by 5:00 PM EST tomorrow. I will try to start day 2 at 6:00 PM EST tomorrow.

Kohai

Vote Count

Awesome5000 (4/6) Airmax, ILikePie, Vader, Unsaid, Whiteflame,- > L2

Vader (3/6) Mikal, Rex, Lunatic

Mikal (1/6) Awesome5000


Not voting: (1/10) Pie


With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch! 


6 minutes