Lunatic

So what are your thought on a strengthener and roleblocker-esque role being in the same team? Why or why wouldn’t pie do that as a mod? Curious to see your take on this.

If I am picking up what is being put down correctly Mikal can vouch for you, can you vouch for him like he claims? If so I’d potentially be willing to cross him off the list for the dreamer results here and focus on bullish. But I would need you to be fairly confident.

Few more details about my role that I asked pie:

I don’t die hiding behind scum, and I seek to only be able to hide from night kills.

Hid behind Rex because there was zero chance in hell he would be killed.

This was his last POE

“Agree. I'd remove whitelfame and thoth and add in Mikal with a potential for helz. 

Casey

Lunatic

Banana

Shining

Mikal”

I want to go over kohais reads. I was fairly confident he wouldn’t be night killed even as a confirmed innocent because it’s kohai and he tends not to be the strongest player. I did not think mafia would target him. So for them to kill him he may be a threat in his reads and a nuisance they don’t want to deal with. I’ll peep his reads later.

This could just be bullish too. He didn’t give me much to work with last day phase either. Either way both need to claim and figure this out. I am probably always going to be paranoid of Mikal. If he is town this will suck because I think we are going to end up scum reading each other hard. I kind of hate dreamers lol but can’t ignore the results either

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/63/periodic-table-of-elements-mafia---dp1?page=28&comment_number=832

This post comes off a bit scummy to me. Setting up in advance his distaste for the mago lynch to farm cred. The Casey mislynch if it happened would have been ten times easier for him to talk his way out of since they were inactive. But he never really had any good reason for town read ago despite doing it early. “He drives actvity” is kind of bullshit since 90% of magos posts were nothing burgers. I just think Mikal set this up to make anyone look bad on the mago wagon while giving himself town cred by looking opposed to it.

Both Mikal and bullish advocates a Casey lynch hard. The way Mikal did it was a bit scummier though and seemed like more “TMI” than anything.

Helz wrote:

Looking at the train progression #728 Luna shifts from Rex to Mag. They cite not wanting to eliminate an inactive but voice a strong level of confidence Mag is scum. I think this is the core origin of the shift in trains which does not look good

I was advocating Rex almost the entire day phase and was met with resistance at every turn. It did not seem like that lynch was possible. Mago was my second strongest scum read and this was indicated pretty early on in the day phase by my reads. There seemed to be a bit more support for that and I was fairly confident that he would flip scum. Ultimately I just wanted to make sure we didn’t mislynch and the Casey lynch felt awful so mago seemed like a better push.

Yeah I’m probably cooked lol, being on results after lynching ago is not a great look. And my claim is not going to help my either. I am krypton, the compulsive hider. I hid behind Rex last night.

Big justification for it is essentially that krypton is a Greek word for “hidden” or “concealed” and the meaning is embedded in how ie was historically perceived.

As for the mago lunch that is unfortunate. I am sorry but the alternative was Casey and in hindsight is seems saving her from a lynch was a good thing since she an investigator. I think we would have been more pissed losing that role than a strengthened. I did genuinely think mago was scum and I provided a ton of behavioral basis for it. Mago himself admitted his playstyle was different at several points. It is what it is. I think we would have mislynches either way last night unless we were able to sneak some sort of lunch off on bullish or Mikal which doesn’t seem likely.

Theres a chance Casey could be scum here. They did see me pull a dreamer gambit off succesfully as scum in Russia mafia. But I kind of doubt she would try that, idk, it’s probably just legit. We should be open minded to it though. Both Mikal and bullish should full claim as well.

Mag1cman wrote:

If anything I am more sus of people not on the wagon trying to farm town cred. 

I’ve been towning Magoroth for the whole DP, fighting actions against him whenever I’m online. This is disingenuous

Yeah but it never really made sense why, your explanations never added up. If he is town the entire read looks dis-ingenuous. Your whole thing was that Activity = town was actually NAI. I can see town reading him from ignorance as you werent in some major mago games where he was extremely townie. But even mago admits he was playing differently, multiple times. So if he flips town, your reading him town doesn't do much for me.

Mag1cman wrote:

The question on Lunatic is if he would switch the wagon away from Casey (assuming Casey is scum). He’s ballsy enough, but would he have good reason to think he can get away with it?

Im the guy known for bussing almost every time im scum lol

meant to tag you not mago

Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

I think how quickly that wagon on Magoroth got traction vs the wagon on Casey is noteworthy

It wasnt quick at all. I had to pull teeth for that shit. And it probably wouldnt have happened if the day phase wasnt going to end in a no lynch otherwise.

If anything I am more sus of people not on the wagon trying to farm town cred.

Mag1cman wrote:

I think how quickly that wagon on Magoroth got traction vs the wagon on Casey is noteworthy

It wasnt quick at all. I had to pull teeth for that shit. And it probably wouldnt have happened if the day phase wasnt going to end in a no lynch otherwise.

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Thoth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Bro the day phase is over. Time limit ended. We almost didnt get a lynch off. literally rex hammered with two minutes remaining. Do better.

And you are whining now that you mislynched? You think that is preferable to no-lynching? Lmao do better

I didn't whine that I mislynched. I dont think we mislynched. Im still waiting on the flip.

I still don’t understand WTF there is to debate. Pie literally posts alignment at the end of the day. There’s “nothing” to “think”, there’s 0 reason for me to lie. I’d get outed literally at the start of the night. Why keep pretending? Makes 0 sense

Whats done is done. If you are town, we will have to make the most of your flip and information tomorrow.

Thoth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Bro the day phase is over. Time limit ended. We almost didnt get a lynch off. literally rex hammered with two minutes remaining. Do better.

And you are whining now that you mislynched? You think that is preferable to no-lynching? Lmao do better

I didn't whine that I mislynched. I dont think we mislynched. Im still waiting on the flip.

Bro the day phase is over. Time limit ended. We almost didnt get a lynch off. literally rex hammered with two minutes remaining. Do better.

Anyways I am done posting for now. No point. Deed is done, just need to wait for a flip. Everything else is wifom at this point. We have a treasure trove of analysis we can use from this flip, I am content with this day phase. DP1 mislynches happen. Is what it is. I still don't think we mislynched though.

Magoroth wrote:

Retards. Enjoy my flip. At least I’m out of this game.

Yes, I really am Calcium and Strengthener. If you see anything else it was edited.

Lunatic refusing to even talk to me at the end when. he admitted he expected me to freak out is so ridiculously scummy I dunno if it actually comes from scum

Brother 90% of my total posts have been in response to you. I ignored you for 3 minutes because doing otherwise would have resulted in a no lynch.

And yes, I really am Town. No reason to hide it at this point because Pie will post my alignment immediately. Fuck all of you.

I suspect if neither Lunatic nor Banana are scum then scum are either sheep or literally totally asleep.

IF you are town we get tons of information for this. I will due my penance and will hunt scum. Town will win this game. You can be mad at me, but if we random shot casey and she was town I don't think you would have cared this much.

RexFavilla wrote:

At least it will be a juicy flip.

Tons of post flip analysis here. And if we are wrong we lost a strengthener. We always would have been suspicious of a strengthener.

RexFavilla wrote:

VTL: Magoroth

Thank god.

If bullish doesn't lynch mago here, he is scum as fuck idgaf

4 minutes bullish. This is your moment.

Anyone who is online and doesn't vote will be under HEAVY scrutinization tomorrow. You are essentially advocating a no lynch by not voting mago.

Pretty sure if you dont vote we are going to no lynch. I will be mad suspect of you if you let us no lynch.

whiteflame wrote:

So wait, I saw something about a CC on Helz. Did Helz claim?

Helz claimed rolestopper or something. He was vague. Idk what kohai was smoking about the CC. Either way it shows one or the other is likely scum, and we aren't lynching helz. putting a counter to a town role on the same team makes 0 sense. Caught kohai with this logic in a recent game remember?

We don't have time to engage with mago any more. I am effectively ignoring his posts. I gave him his fair shake, now its lynching time.

Shining wrote:

UNVOTE

VTL: Magoroth

What is this shit? You better be right Lunatic.

Good job

I know you are around. You were just posting. Letting this go to a nl is going to add to any scumminess people saw in you. If you want to change that narrative this is a good starting point. And if we are wrong this looks wierd for helz who you have had a hard on this whole game. I will help you explore that. But we need you to vote mago here.