Lunatic

be an effiminate faggot or trans and girls will feel more comfortable with you and just walk around with their tits out. Also if you emulate what you imagine that somebody like Kurt Kobain would be like and embody that personality, women will be comfortable around you and also expose themselves.

Whatever you do, don't better yourself by getting a real job, being physically fit and learning some basic social dynamics. That is reserved for people who want to put in effort.

I think the idea that woman just hang around gay guys with their tits out is hilariously based on comedy movies, and not indicative of real life. But yeah, Kurt Kobain is a baller.

Wow. Can we just break RVS and stay on track? We are crossing into a level of silly I am questioning if I am just being trolled.

None of this is RVS btw.

I'm usually nocturnal and I'm almost tempted to hit the sack now so I can wake up after I've been mislynched and laugh at how you dumbasses never learn your lesson about mislynching on day 1

That's okay, I am immune to humiliation for a day phase one mislynch. Statistically its the phase when we have the highest odds of doing it, and if your lynch generates activity, reads, and narrows down the POE, its a net positive. How many recent games have been won after a few mislynches? You should know this.

Legit questions were raised that could have legit answers and push the game into a honest and legit examination of the other players in the game.. Can we get back twords that? Wtf is even going on with this game..

I don't see why we can't pursue a lead and still have other people get on and answer questions/post thoughts. We chillin brotha. But Thoth clearly wants more pressure to do a basic thing like character claim, which doesn't really make a lot of sense. I am not asking for a full claim from him. How much time does he honestly need to frantically search up a good fake claim?

BOYS looks like we got another one that wants to resist claiming. Lets show him how we deal with that type of behavior 'round here. YEEEHHAWWWW

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It's only going to take me 30 seconds of Googling unless the theme split is stupidly arcane, and I'm getting the feeling that it's straightforward.

Then why did you bother asking me for my thoughts on the theme split if you think its that easy to figure out? Why do you think its straightforward?

PUNISH ME DADDY

Say less.

If I were scum, then don't you think I'd be able to figure out the theme split easily since I would know my scummates' characters?

If you were scum I don't think you would be open about the fact that you know the theme split lol. Also knowing your teams roles doesn't always mean you know the actual split, I feel like this goes without saying.

Good question

Is it one you intend to answer or do we have to give you the kohai treatment from debatecraft players mafia and put you at l-1 and see if you don't get "accidentally" hammered?

I know next to nothing about this show. What do you think the obvious hero/villain split would be? Do you think this game is based on one season or arc or subplot or spinoff or whatever?

I would like the claim from you before I answer this. I don't want to get baited into giving you any hints ;-)

I'll say that I'm pretty sure my character is good in the show.

Cool who are they?

In addition to a claim I would like your reads list, and who your strongest lynch target is this day phase and why.

I don't want to get into that unless I have to full-claim.

I would at the very least like some sort of claim. It doesn't have to be full unless its scummy. Though I have no basis for how a claim would be scummy without knowing the theme split, I can at least do some analysis here on the theme since I am pretty well versed in the show.

Well, I'm biased but I think the Hunter Guild should just not recruit, it will be fine, we can unite to focus on hunting scum together and use our power roles, pinky promise! ;3

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Did Lunatic recruit me? I got the offer yes. I will confirm as much which does place them as confirmed town. I did not accept. My role did not need to be in a guild to do the stuff it does and I did not see a real benefit in sharing a chat that offset the cost of expanding the towns PR after conversations with the host about game mechanics. While I am going to avoid unpacking any read of Wylted or Lunatic given I feel both are almost certainly town and Lunatic is effectively confirmed town to me I think expansion of PR’s holds value to the town and for any that question it look at post 377. I never accepted and if I was mafia I would have to gain advantage.

I will not say what I do but I do not need be in a guild to do it. I saw it as a greater issue for me to have a voice in some group chat than me not being able to act if they choose to recruit to unlock more PR functions. 281 of Lunatic also reflects blocking some of the other towns recruitment voicing they had 2 shots go through and somehow blocked 1 from the other side that Wylted did not say was untrue. Sounds like N0 was a disaster for town imo.

(Sigh) While I was curious as to why you didn't join the faction I was hoping you wouldn't publicly say you didn't join. It wasn't much but I had a good bluff going against wylted that I had the better numbers. Was hoping I could use that to maybe wifom him into not playing too much into his wincon thinking it was maybe pointless for him to try if he is behind. Oh well, that's out the window now. But yeah I agree that mafia probably wouldn't give up a chance to be in a mason chat, so it does give you a bit of town cred, which is why I wasn't pressuring you off the bat for this. You drawing attention to the fact that you should get town cred for not joining is another matter, but I am going to try not to overanalyze that.

With 14 pages of content I would like to see some reads lists. I know its still technically early. Ideally from everyone, but mostly from players that haven't posted much or posted at all, like banana, shining, airmax, vader, and Helz. I have some decent reads already but considering I am town confirmed I will keep them for my guild chat for now, or to myself.

You would get a kick out of talking to royalpaladin, then. If you want polarizing personalities, that's her in a nutshell.

Great friend, but god could she flame.

I remember I tried black listing her for mafia towards the end. I don't remember why now, but yeah she could be infuriating. But you talk to her literally about anything else outside of mafia she was the chillest person ever.

"Claimed females"

Always the suspicion from the online dudes. I've never worried claimed male users were stealth females.

"YEAH LUNATIC SAYS HE'S A DUDE BUT YOU CAN NEVER REALLY BE SURE AMIRITE LADIES, PICS OR GTFO 'BRO' "

Fuck you caught me. I am secretly a female masquerading as a man. HOW DID YOU KNOW!?

At this point I am in favor of all the old guard coming back, the collision of personalities this game is lit

It's kind of nice that the strongest player here isn't necessarily pie as per usual. Not that pie is bad, but we are in the deep end of players with a lot of experience now. Even Helz, who reportedly hails from MU and SC which are reputable mafia sites.

Who tf is FT and where tf do you fuckers get the gall to have backstory that predates my introduction to this social community

FT is FourTrouble. He was a really good player, specifically as town. Hope to see him come back sometime.

I was willing to give Thoth the benefit of the doubt that he was just assuming Mes was a fearkill from observation, but his reaction was kind of fumble-y. My eyebrow has been ratcheted up by one gear tooth

His reaction and response really didn't make sense to me either.

Setting the bar awful low there, aren't you? Don't trip over it.

Oh 100%. Look at any game on DART ever and see where bussing works with 100% efficiency when it has no reason to. You saw me pull the dumbest bus ever and make it work, and I am not even claiming to be a good player. You are making the same mistake I did when I first started playing on DART by raising the bar of skill expectation way higher than it actually is based on DDO games. We have some GOATs in this game though, so maybe this game will be the exception.

One, literally everything is in Tim's range of play.

Agreed

Two, I'd never glaze him. He doesn't need any bigger of an ego.

You kind of just did by saying he's capable of a bus, and secondly the idea would have been that you did this in a secret mafia pm, not openly. But I digress.

Vote: Thoth for the reasons stated.

Given that pretty much everyone has at least poked their head in enough to skim the DP (save Helz), I think we are pretty much treating Luna and Wylted as town confirmed at this point given the lack of CC (scum would be suicidal to CC them anyway).

Mestari's analysis of Pie being FT in a trench coat is hilariously accurate.

Your vote on thoth here is interesting. Are you thinking that mestari is bussing here? Because the main logic here is that someone who knows and has played with mestari on DDO told him he was a fear kill option. That limits the amount of people to him, you me, and maybe mharman (who apparently only played with him once). Potentially Rex (Skep) I can't honestly remember if skep played with mestari, but its a possibility. I guess you could make a case that airmax did as well, though I have no evidence to suggest max is aware the day phase is up atm. I dont think vader (supa) played with him but if he did he was ultra noob when he did and probably doesn't remember him. I don't think Whiteflame played mafia til DART days which was long after mestaris retirement, though he was around DDO to know of him and maybe said something to the respect of his play. Either way, these are all possibilities I could consider, but Thoth being scum would heavily implicate you in this scenario.

If thoth is scum I am pretty sure we have one guaranteed scum between mestari and alyssa, depending on whether or not you buy a bus from mestari.

Because my brain doesn't always brain

I am fine with that aspect of it. Just the odd conclusion jump and the lack of consistency in applying it to helz (though tbf he hasn't made an appearance yet). What is your charatcer?

Yeah, you got me there. I specifically remembered Helz saying in one of the Mafia channels in the DebateCraft server that he knew Mestari from MU and thought he was really good, but it looks like my brain made that up. I think I mixed it up with where Helz said that he himself had devoted a bunch of time to studying Mafia theory. All these (from my perspective) newcomers get jumbled together in my mind.

Helz saying he studies mafia theory =/= Mestari being a fear kill target?

Specifically in post 245 you said he was going mano-a-mano with pie who is also a fear kill target. I get why you would think that about pie, who you have been playing with for a while now, but why mestari who was at one point not long ago the largest wagon in the day phase?

Casey, banana, and wryly are all claimed females irl btw. Alyssa as well but you know that already.

I actually never claimed that my gender was female, just that I was fine with people using she/her for me.

TBF I only even knew you were female because wylted told me in one game ages ago lol. Somehow I missed you ever saying that, but just went along with the assumption that wylted was correct.

Maybe it's not as bad as my initial instincts. I do see the point that there's a good chance that at least one mafia is already in a guild chat. Still, it's giving away info completely for free, and as a rule the town really should avoid that, for obvious reasons. But what's done is done, not going to argue about it further.

Fair, but the context of the game and its mechanics are very relevant to the decision as well. if I was like an innocent child or something it would be a bit different.

"Claimed" is wild

I mean you never know who is really a fat hairy guy in their moms basement. Maybe I play too many video games. Anyways I have no reason to dis-believe any of them lol

I take it the suspicion here is that Thoth learned this about Mes from scumchat

Yes sir.

Casey, banana, and wryly are all claimed females irl btw. Alyssa as well but you know that already.

vtl thoth

Im just gonna add you. If I get in trouble he can mod kill me but I am assuming hes asleep.

I ask who Thoth is because, if he hasn't played with me, why does he know at the time of the post about me vs pie that I'm a fearkill target?

I would very much like to know the answer to this as well please.

Why Helz?

Figured he would be unlikely to be recruited since he hasn't played here before and no one seems to know him. And I am generally getting the vibe that he is going to be an active player whom I can bounce my neurotic thoughts off of. After brief discussions with him in the DART discord and in the sign ups thread for this game, I think I like him.