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...also not a name I recognize? xD Though after looking them up on DART I can't recall that we had ever interacted.

He was the creator of the famous mafia guide that was pinned in the games section for years.

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I have some light information, but I don't see any point to out it at this moment. It really just kind of town confirms someone who will be town confirmed anyway, so unless I see any information that gives me reason to oust this, I will keep it in the back pocket for now.

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I was typing to respond to you when the day phase got closed, but the reason I don't think Lie Detector is a major loss is honestly because historically the role kind of sucks. There was a period of time on DDO where the role was very commonly used. However is slowly got phased out. A straight up cop is much less of a head ache most of the time.


But you run into issues like: What statements can be lie detected, yes or no statements only or anything? Does a lie neccesarily mean scum? Town lie frequently to bait night kills, or if they have a strong role and don't want scum to know, or say if someone says they are a 1x doctor and you lie detect it, find out they are lying, but the reason they lied is because they were an every night doctor and didn't want mafia to night kill them because they want them to think it would be wasted, etc. Like there is just so many nuance situations with it. Then we had a meta where people would start every game saying "I win with the town" specifically for the lie detector role, but certain mods thought that was unfair and just didn't allow it because at that point you might as well just call it a cop. Idk the role has backfired a million times before for town, it just kind of blurs the lines. There might be an odd game or two I remember it actually catching scum, but I definitely don't remember ever being blown away by that role.

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You are famous for your use of inventive custom roles in the games you host, 

Hmm I do use custom roles sometimes yes. Interesting role.


Sucks to lose an inventor though np1. 2 Games in a row.

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Hatstand, Lickdafoot, royalpaladin, there was a few more I cant think of off the top. That2user but I think she has another account here already.

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Yeah regardless of the accidental hammer kohai should have 100% claimed when he had three votes on him. Even if you don’t like the logic for being pushed, it’s never a good idea to not comply

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Hard town on wryly I don’t think she risks an accidental hammer gambit as scum. She would be too paranoid of that shit backfiring on her and getting her lynched

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I’m not gonna fight it too hard honestly your not wrong and it gives us some direction and basis to work with since dp1 can be hard to get any traction going otherwise so if this is the direction we are wanting to go we can make the best of the situation. Also in a 9 player game mafia is likely going to figure POE out pretty quickly so might as well even the playing field and give town the same info

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Just seems like setting a bad precedent. We just gonna insta-wagon him every game because he's bad at fake claiming?

I am all for trial by fire logic, this type of thing has worked in the past, im just not 100% sure that its the right move in this scenario with scum knowing the theme split, and kohai being likely to just end up being pressured into claiming his role and him being a power role or something fucking us over majorly. If it was a case where he was like only bad at fake claiming as scum but had an excellent town game though pie might be cooking with this. Idk I will think about it as I drive to work. And this is mafia! You gotta be a dick sometimes to make shit happen. Being nice is for the mafia compliment box :)

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This is a double edged sword strategy honestly. I don't even care about being a dick to him, but he's early claimed as town power roles also before which has hurt town in the past. I don't think just getting a character claim from him will help us a ton either if scum know the theme split.

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"I love Thoth's Mafia games. He is a brilliant game designer who always makes creative yet balanced setups. I think everyone should sign up for all of his games as soon as possible."

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"Savant is the best, most beautiful, most high-IQ player on DebateCraft by far despite not appearing on the mafia leaderboard. No one is better at winning than Savant. Those other people might try their hardest, but they are all suckers compared to him."