Mag1cman

Oh you want us to confirm the pings actually work.


yes, I got the noti… I’d be shocked if didn’t. I know the sites in early development, but it’s not THAT ragtag. Not compared to earlier

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Tangentially, I asked my Werewolf playgroup on Discord what they thought of the meta here of claiming your character's gender on day 1. They not only disliked it from a gameplay perspective, but also were offended at the prospect of assigning gender to characters who have not self-identified.

Yeesh, your other mafia group sounds like a buncha sno- I mean, Invite your friends over! We’re gonna have FUN! :)

Mag1cman

Thought about it more- town missed some really good opportunities with the setup.


i still think more scumsided but not as bad


mega coin flip tho

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#3) Mafia Game #3 (Host: Burningpuppies101) - Mafia A victory


NOTES: This was the first game with a new host.


DP1 had to be restarted. Here is a link to the first attempt at a DP1: https://web.archive.org/web/20130731020416/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/831/


Danielle was mislynched (DP1) or killed (NP1 after a no-lynch in DP1) as a Beloved Princess… DP2 was skipped, but then DP3 was called DP2, so on and so forth. Dvhoose and YonRoku were killed during the NPs, but it is unknown if they were killed on the same NP or different NPs.


LogicalMaster used his first vig shot during NP1 or NP2. It is unknown when.


It is unknown if there were any no-lynches prior to DP4.


SETUP:  Like the previous game, characters were not in the setup. This setup did, however, introduce a second mafia faction.


Mafia A: (Johnicle, I-am-a-Panda, Harlan, DiablosChaosBroker)


Johnicle - Godfather

Harlan - Angel (variant unknown)

Panda - Goon

DiablosChaosBroker - Goon


Extra Ability: Votebuyer (Called "Politician” in the game, it is unknown if they had this ability from the start, or if it was obtained)


Mafia B: (Chestertonian, YonRoku, Sportsguru, Crackofdawnjr)


Chestertonian - Godfather

YonRoku - Roleblocker (called “Prostitute” in this game)

Sportsguru - Doctor

Crackofdawnjr - Bodyguard


Town: (Deadleaves93, Dvhoose, Ournamestoolong, KRFournier, Logical-Master, Danielle, Mrbullfrog11, Theitalianstallion, JBlake)


Deadleaves - Cop

Dvhoose - Paranoid Cop

Ournamestoolong - Doctor

KRFournier - Paranoid Doctor (function unknown)

LogicalMaster - Vigilante

Danielle - Beloved Princess (variation unknown)

Mrbullfrog - Mason

Italianstallion - Mason

JBlake - Mason


ACTIONS:


DP1: (Thread link: https://web.archive.org/web/20090220191957/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/836/)


Unknown


NP1: 


Unknown


DP2:


Skipped


NP2:


Unknown


DP3: (Thread link: https://web.archive.org/web/20090218164354/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/842/)


Unknown


NP3:


Mafia A - Kill LogicalMaster


LogicalMaster - Use Vig (Target unknown)


Other actions unknown


DP4: (Thread link: https://web.archive.org/web/20090217141241/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/846/)


Town - No Lynch (unknown if by vote or timeout)


NP4:


Mafia B - Kill DiablosChaosBroker


Other actions unknown


DP5: (Thread link: https://web.archive.org/web/20090217083137/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/854/)


Town - Lynch Crackofdawnjr (Result: Guilty)


NP5:


Mafia A - Kill JBlake


Other actions unknown


DP6: (No thread link)


Town - Lynch Chestertonian (Result: Guilty)


NP6:


Sportsguru - Kill Harlan


Other actions unknown


DP7: (No thread link)


Town - Lynch Sportsguru (Result: Guilty)


NP7:


Mafia A - Kill Ournamestoolong


Other actions unknown


DP8/Endgame: (No thread link)


RESOLUTION: Mafia B was eliminated DP7 with the lynching of Sportsguru. Mafia A entered DP8 with a votebuyer, so the mod ended the game a little late. Since two members of Mafia A remained, having bought another player's vote, they held control over the vote for the DP, and would gain guaranteed control of the vote for the rest of the game. Therefore, the game should have ended NP7, but due to a mod error, the game ended DP8 with a Mafia A victory.

Mag1cman

#2) Mafia Game #2 (Host: Logical-Master) - Mafia victory


NOTES: In this game, Danielle is listed by her old username, “theLwerd.” 


Some roles and actions are unknown. One of the townies with an unknown role was the other mason. 


It is unknown if DiablosChaosBroker raised a townie from the dead at any point during the game. If they did, it was most likely used on someone who was killed befoe DP7; Johngriswald (not playing) didn’t know the roles of the living townies at the end of the game, indicating their flips were not revealed earlier in the game (it is possible he simply missed a flip from a living player that had been raised from the dead). In addendum, there is JBlake’s vote on Ournamestoolong in DP7- this indicates they were not previously town confirmed via their flip. However, no revivals and second deaths are mentioned among the dead players, which could be evidence that the necromancer ability was not used on any of them. Perhaps they never used their ability- hence their mislynch. It is unlikely town would lynch a confirmed necromancer who used it on town.


There are some discrepancies with the names of roles used in this game, and their names on MafiaUniverse. This archive thread recognizes the names of roles as found in the MU database/wiki, as is recent practice among the community. Historically, roles were referred to by their names as found in the MafiaScum wiki.


At some point, Nobody replaced in for YonRoku.


It appears a player named Maddoxparadox played in this game- however, their flip is not listed anywhere, so it is unknown what happened to them. If their flip was not given, it may be a sign of a modkilled townie. It could be standard procedure and that Maddox was mafia, however.


SETUP: Building upon the previous game, this game contains power roles. No characters are included in the setup.


Mafia: (Danielle, InquireTruth, JBlake)


JBlake - Godfather

InquireTruth - Roleblocker (called “Prostitute” in this game)

Danielle - Goon (called “Normal Mafia Member” in this game)


Town: (The-Mad-Hatter, Ournamestoolong, TheSkeptic, I-am-a-panda, Crackofdawnjr, Harlan, Burningpuppies101, Askbob, DiablosChaosBroker, Johnicle, Nobody(YonRoku))


Askbob - Cop

Nobody(YonRoku) - Doctor

Panda - Mason

Johnicle - Vigilante

DiablosChaosBroker - Necromancer (called “Revivor” in this game)

Crackofdawnjr - Saint (called “Priest” in this game)

Harlan - Votebuyer (called “Politician” in this game)

Burningpuppies - Vanilla (called “Normal Townie” in this game)

The-Mad-Hatter - role unknown

Ournamestoolong - role unknown

TheSkeptic - role unknown


Unknown:


Maddoxparadox? - role unknown, if played (theorized to have played and been modkilled as town)


ACTIONS:


DP1: (No thread link)


Unknown


NP1:


Mafia - Kill Panda


Johnicle - Vig Panda


All other actions unknown


DP2: (No thread link)


Unknown


NP2:


Unknown


DP3: (No thread link)


Town - Lynch Crackofdawnjr (Result: Innocent)


NP3:


Mafia - Kill Harlan


Other actions unknown


DP4: (no thread link)


Town - Lynch Burningpuppies (Result: Innocent)


NP4:


Mafia - Kill Askbob


Other actions unknown


DP5: (no thread link)


Town - Lynch DiablosChaosBroker (Result: Innocent)


NP5:


Mafia - Kill Johnicle


Johnicle - Vig Danielle


Other actions unknown


DP6:


Town - No Lynch (Unknown if by hammer or timeout)


NP6:


Mafia - Kill Nobody

InquireTruth - Roleblock Nobody


Nobody - Waive? (Late submission?)


Other actions unknown


DP7: (Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20130731020110/http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/822/)


Town - No Lynch via Timeout


RESOLUTION: After the no-lynch, the mafia would kill another townie NP7. This would make the game a 2v2. The game ended on DP7 with a Mafia victory.

Mag1cman

Hello! While I am adding games to the new archive thread, here is a link to the old one:


https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4694-the-complete-mafia-archive

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DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THE THREAD OWNER (currently Mag1cman). This is an archive of all main-series mafia games in our community's history. Contributors to this thread: F_16_Fighting_Falcon, Hatstand, SeventhProfessor, Smithereens, Socialpinko, Noumena, Buddamoose, Drafterman, Vader, Ragnar, Whiteflame, RationalTheist, and Mag1cman... as well as the community that has been playing and hosting games since its formation.


#1) Mafia Game #1 (Host: Logical-Master) - Mafia victory


NOTE: This was the first mafia game in DDO history, with DP1 beginning on 11/27/2008.


SETUP: This setup consisted of all vanillas and goons. There were no characters or PRs. It was Forum Mafia in its most rudimentary form. This was done for the sake of simplicity, as the site’s playerbase had just been formed.


Mafia:


TheSkeptic

Harlan

Johnicle


Town:


InquireTruth

Brian_eggleston

I-am-a-panda

Manutdredseal46

JBlake

Ournamestoolong


ACTIONS:


DP1: (No thread link)


Town - Lynch Manutdredseal (Result: Innocent)


NP1:


Mafia - Kill JBlake


DP2: (Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20151103162744/http://debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/438/)


Town - Lynch Ournamestoolong (Result: Innocent)


RESOLUTION:


After the mislynch of Ournamestoolong, mafia would kill one townie unopposed in NP2, leaving the game at a 3v3. At that point, the mafia could control the vote, since the town could never accumulate the 4 votes needed to lynch anyone. This would allow the mafia to kill all of the remaining townies in the following night phases. Following the standard procedure for a foregone conclusion, the game ended DP2, in a Mafia victory.

Mag1cman

I definitely think there are parts of this game where both sides made themselves look scummier than they should have.

Mag1cman
We had a Lone Wolf who we didn’t even know till DP4 when Supa claimed my character. If we had killed him any of the previous NPs, with POE it would’ve been an autoloss

That depends on fake claims, plus the tracker + tracker was always angle you could fight the PoE on...


This ofc assumes you don't just win early by chaining NKs before town can do much.


If you 3 weren’t connected, scum would’ve won that game easily hands down. After RT/Vader we only had one path to victory and that was convincing REF to run into Casey’s bomb. Literally one. Everything else had us losing the game as I told Mikal

But that's my point with the masons. It only takes one scum to get himself trusted to weaponize them for scum.


Even then, there was still play left- you were still widely townread and convincing Rex to stay with his scumread on Earth wouldn't have been too hard. He had a sus on Ragnar as well.