Like I wonder if the scum team fucked up and killed Lunatic.
if that’s the case there may not be a survivor as I initially thought…
cause having two ways in which scum can get an extra NK feels tailored to help them. They save town too, but we’re in odds so protectives aren’t as impactful compared to evens. I think the fact that they can save townies is designed to counter the fact that they can give scum an extra NK
Literally just flip through the thread bruh
*princess peach
aka Mario’s beloved princess
Lowkey sus of the fact that no one is defending RT here.
and yet, the whole premise of super Mario is that you platform constantly to save princes peach.
VTL Pie
Vote count?
ill start with point 2: for this point, you have to buy that I was suggesting the possibility of survivor with the purpose of getting him to claim it… which he could’ve easily avoided by reading his PM properly. So the idea that I was banking something like that is ridiculous.
My whole idea there was that he might pull a waterphoenix and tell us what faction he was, not knowing how to play the game. So I actually hinging on him actually reading the PM (the one he confirmed to Mikal!) and understanding what his affiliation is… something that should be a given with everyone who plays this game.
Even noobs understand which affiliation they roll… the waterphoenix case proves they are often naive as to how to play said affiliation, sometimes to a hilarious extreme.
I expected Icon to be naive, not completely retarded.
it was a genuine effort at scumhunting, and when he claimed survivor, I felt like I had outed the survivor. Quite a feel people did, otherwise he wouldn’t have been lynched. This was genuine effort at scumhunting from me. Point 1, the flip, is his own fault for being so incompetent that he claimed survivor as town… all he had to do was read “you win with the town.”
Please consider the fact that if I’m scum, I’m not even trying a trick like this, especially not to out a survivor that I could be teaming up with later. The second I felt he was survivor, I would have masoned him and tried to keep him alive, rather than out the possibility of him being survivor.
assuming 8v2+1:
if survivor is lynched DP1:
DP1: survivor lynch + NK
7v2
DP2: mislynch + NK
5v2
DP3: mislynch + NK
3v2
DP4: mislynch, mafia wins
when teaming with the survivor:
DP1: mislynch + NK
6v2+1
DP2: mislynch + NK
4v2+1
DP3: mislynch
even if the NK fails, it’s a 3v2+1 and scum can team with the survivor. Scum wins.
… which why scum has such a high incentive to team with the survivor. The longer the game lasts, the more chances town has to confirm themselves and pinch mafia in a PoE squeeze.
And that’s why I’m lock town.
Ok
To keep you honest: what is the justification for you role?
Seriously. If you’re scum all you have to is what I’ve described. Claim to have masoned your teammate while waiving. That’s it.
there needs to be more nuance added here. Please consider the incentives of adding specific people
I’ll leave it at that
Scum are already in a PM with their faction. So they chose a townie or a possible TP with their Mason ability to work out more info/help their play. That means we can eliminate all the current combos of 2 as scum pairings:
Mharman/WF
Casey/Ragnar
Theist/Luna
Whiteflame/Vader
REF/Pie
Earth/Whiteflame
Ragnar/Whiteflame
Pie/Casey
I would be careful about this. I spotted that this was your idea sometime during the night phase. Mafia, who is already thinking about who they’re going to select, may have spotted it as well. If I can figure it out from my pov, they definitely can.
thus the counterplay would be to waive a mason and then claim they are masoned with your teammate. Only one of them needs to do this; the other can use their mason on someone else
That being said, the things that stand out to me about the claim are that for one, it’s “a nooooo don’t lynch me” claim, and two, we already have hider. So now two ways scum can get two night kills. Only possible in a 9v2.
I don’t like how he ended the DP so early. I don’t like how Lunatic is dead and janitored.
ir reading RT’s claim wrong. He corrected it
Mharman - I dislike Mharman. Whiteflame and I disagree with this but Mharman's initial reaction to saying he's town locked is not just incorrect,
Go ahead and give your reasoning for this one lol
Don’t care for the claim either.
anyway Imma take today off. I need a day off from mafia. I’ll get the snake thing done at some point and I’ll be posting tomorrow
if anyone wants to know how the 200-player MafiaUniverse Anniversary Mash game ended: LINK
More events 😭 Bro I just got done with the MU anniversary mash
tagging Casey in the above as well
seriously tho this is just a null read of me if you really wanna go with the stated logic
do you have any good argument as to why a mafioso would try to out the survivor?
Very insightful!
So what’s the point of claiming Chrono Trigger out of nowhere DP1?
Lunatic - Whiteflame
Icon - None
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Lunatic - Super Mario Bros (80s- old school game) - ???
Icon - Frogger - Compulsive Hider
Don’t wanna do it myself cause I’m taking the rest of the night off
bye
Someone compile a list of Mason claims.
i masoned Whiteflame and I got masoned by no one
Quite a few people, actually.
Since we’re all outting our Mason picks.
If you masoned or got masoned by Lunatic, please claim.
Did Lunatic mason you or did you mason Lunatic?
Also I think he lied about English being his native language. Ain’t no way bro.
You know what? This was still a genuine effort by me and I outted someone who claimed survivor and didn’t understand a thing. I’m townlock cause I don’t even TRY to get the survivor to out himself as scum.
also worth noting that I was trying to get himself to out himself as scum before I even remembered the possibility of survivor
Also I think Whiteflame is town. He also thinks I’m town.
Not sure on Ragnar just yet.
everyone out their Mason picks. like I said I picked Whiteflame.
Also iirc Lunatic claimed 80s so watch out for that.
