Took me a while to stop procrastinating and finish it, but there ya go. ISOing Earth next
Took me a while to stop procrastinating and finish it, but there ya go. ISOing Earth next
VADER ISO
DP1 --------------------------------------------------------
#23
Hi all
At work today but boss isn’t in so maybe can get some activity in
Busy.
#26
My game is from the 70s
70s. Vader cannot make use of Lunatic's flip if he has it.
#140-141
Alright I'm around post 50ish and that 16th century game is kind of out there lol. Definitely think we should get a claim from them not totally willing to write it off just yet.
Not a huge fan of the skeptism that Mharman has going into this with suggesting 3P's and other stuff. Almost seems like he's forcing a lynch on someone and forcing pressure.
After DP ended. Likely not to be in a Discord server. Fakeable, but unlikely. That being said, he was gone for a whole 39 hours... he didn't have time to just pop in and say anything? Not even 5 minutes? Find that a bit harder to believe. That being said, I understand not wanting to play or wanting to take a bit of time off from mafia.
Not a fan of "oh we need to look into Icon he kinda sus" but also "Mharman sus for pushing the guy who is kinda sus." Scummy for playing both sides. Also wondering if the "Mharman is erroneously theorizing Icon is a TP" thing comes from an informed perspective.
DP2 -------------------------------------
#77
Also going to mechanic SOP that I did not choose anyone. I didn't realize that you had to choose before Dp1 ended. I probably would've chosen Pie if I would've looking back at DP but right now I am in a PM with Whiteflame at the moment. I've given him my thoughts on some of the players as well after skimming
This is where the whole "39 hours" thing comes into play. If he didn't feel like posting, I would've expected he at least look at the thread periodically. 48 hours to submit was in the OP for days, even before DP1 started... he posted only a few posts under it. How could he not see it?
Sure, it's possible. But if he doesn't wanna out who he picked for a mason (for example- TP and mason with the scum team), this would be a great lie to come up with.
#78-79
I have my skeptism on RT at the moment. I think that jumping the gun on a lynch within a full day is a bit opportunistic fmpov. It also doesn't help that Luna was killed as well. I don't know how that mechanically works because in all honesty I think it's inherent nature to town read your mason unless you come off as genuinely dishonest
#79
But also in a game like this, I really don't think that it would've been optimal to kill Luna. The FoS is obviously on RT for the quickhammer on Icon with a day left. You would likely want to leave Luna alive as even he would likely agree that's a bad mechanic and I don't think he would've done that even as scum. So the obvious choice as scum to frame him a bit so it's a sub optimal play. Plus is RT killing the only person that can potentially give town cred???
Idk I think that hammer is sus af but at the same time I just don't think RT would kill their mason like that
Wanna say "NAI but noteworthy" here. Brings up a fair point, albeit a little fencesitt-y.
#82
Whiteflame - slight town. I feel like his insights he has given me feel genuine and I don't think there is a reason he'd be lying about anything he has told me. He came off as genuine IMO
Ragnar - Slight town. I think his behavior is pretty remiss of his town behavior. Witty and aluding to being scum by making jokes but not actually scum
RT - I don't love RT's hammer within 24hrs and that honestly pings my FOS, but again I can't get over the NK on him though. It just doesn't make any real sense on why he would kill the only person that could validate his town cred. There are a few options but that hammer and aggressiveness stir me an FoS. I also don't love the claim
Mharman - I dislike Mharman. Whiteflame and I disagree with this but Mharman's initial reaction to saying he's town locked is not just incorrect, but really scummy and honestly nothing like I've seen him as town. Usually he's analytical and focused on catching scum but he seems off
Pie - slight town. I just think his questions asking mods live kind feels town. When scum he usually doesn't do this and just spam pings the host. I feel like it's subtle but it's enough for me to slightly town read.
Picked a side on Ragnar (after a bit of fencesitting), still fencesitting on RT. Looks like that series of posts he made was thinking aloud. I don't hate a little fencesitting if someone is hard to figure out, but I don't like when it becomes a pattern.
#109 - Not gonna paste the whole thing but retarded logic. Has a tinfoil on me. Forgetting that Icon was justifiably sussed last DP. Very scummy, feels like he's grasping at anything to push a mislynch.
#112
I’m not sure what Pie is at so I want to wait for a vote count
Little things like this bother me. You're supposed to be dedicated to town's cause, yet can't be bothered to read the thread to check how many votes are on Pie? Really?
CONCLUSION: Vader looks scummy. There's a smidge of some thought processes that could be towny, but they aren't anything crazy. The big problems are the level of dedication here, and the terrible logic on me when he literally agreed Icon was worth a sus earlier. I can look past the fencesitting if he's really having that much trouble reading people, but the rest of it is a little ridiculous. Possible 3P, odds are somewhat high.
Why did you claim Chrono Trigger late NP1?
I claimed because he asked me to. He said he was compiling a list of flavor claims.
Who is "he?"
Current lead is 95,754
Whoever did this, you have no life. Literally it took me an hour to get like 30K.
Yeah i saw that and decided 'Nah, I'm good." Imma just hope the grassless mf is town
Thinking of ways you could fake it.
In Tetris you can manipulate blocks. Vote Manipulators can make their own vote count for 2,1, or 0. 0 being the way you fake it by voting for yourself.
Oh and Whiteflame claimed his Kirby. I kinda forgot
survivor as RT... ok interesting
Were you in the Anniversary Mash?
man MU cooked with that ISO feature of theirs
I didn’t think the was much more to discuss about Icon at the point. FWIW, I did say that we should wait to hammer so could have discussion about Pie’s plan. Ended up not being that big of a deal, but I wanted to use that time there.
ISOing Vader rn
Rereading DP1 to see what I can find.
Vader’s posting at the end means if he’s scum, he can only be TP Survivor
tag
Where did Whiteflame hint at such a thing?
Don’t have time to type them up rn
TR you, Whiteflame, Pie, Casey
null on Earth
SR Rex, Vader, Ragnar
Five votes were on Pie. We’re testing his popular claim
best to avoid any shenanigans
You can Unvote now. If that was the hammer the DP is over
Pie claimed popular and we are one vote from testing it
RATIONALTHEIST WILL DO THE VOTE
RT vote Pie plz
I just don’t want Pie to do it and I’ll say why after it’s done
You do it then so we don’t have to wait. I chose RT cause felt he’d be active soon.
NOBODY ELSE VOTE BUT Ragnar
The logic in the above is that, if RT really was scum, he was planning to pass the fake claim to a teammate… not for himself.
But then again, Vader claimed 70s and I know what Whiteflame is… it’s a 90s game as he said.
So both teammate theories are a bust there. Bolsters RT towncase.
if RT is scum, then the only possible teammate here is Whiteflame, who I townread.
oh there’s Vader too. I’m specifically looking for people who could have access to the same information as RT. Either by being in a mason with Lunatic, or with RT. Vader says he used his mason on non one, but that’s unfalsifiable.
Why did you claim Chrono Trigger late NP1?
I’ll repeat for the new page:
Go ahead and vote Pie, then unvote.
NOBODY ELSE CAST THE VOTE BUT RT.
Also, I no longer scumread RT. I kinda townread him, actually.
if RT is scum, then the only possible teammate here is Whiteflame, who I townread.
Go ahead and vote Pie, then unvote.
NOBODY ELSE CAST THE VOTE BUT RT.
But then a 9v2 feels really unfair is scum can’t get those extra kills basically for free…
so maybe there is just a survivor. I guess with those extra kills there’s greater odds that they hit said survivor