Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/18/2026 at 5:26 PM (post #234)
Its just odd. You have a read. Backpedal on it and say you have what you need. Then retcon a reason. Like reaction test yada yada

Wf is saying he is role confirmable. So I will drop it for now.

Would rather just get a full claim from shining


that's not what I was doing though


the things I said were things on my mind about him yes, but ultimately how he responded was gonna determine my thoughts on him


He was the only person on my list of people who i felt were coasting and people who I felt were jumping on others. So I pressed him to be sure. Because it's true that there's not a lot going on, that Mago spazzes and that Shining is inactive af... but the three things Lunatic did combined established a pattern that I didn't like


that's not retconning.

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/18/2026 at 4:20 PM (post #225)
Based on my earlier post. I want shining to full claim. Right now im between wf or shinning today.

Magics behavior is also just bad. Hes like retconing reasoning. Makes a weird move and says he got what he needs or it was a reaction test. I town read luna more now after the recent posts.

What specifically is weird?

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 2:36 PM (post #212)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 12:32 PM (post #211)
Every time I’ve correctly scumread Lunatic in the past, he’d kinda brush my concerns off to the side and then try to get on my good side.

He’s probably town.
I dont remember ever doing that lol

You have. Just wanted to test you ‘cause you were on my list for a few things, and I wanted to see if you’d check the big box. You didn’t.

Mag1cman

Every time I’ve correctly scumread Lunatic in the past, he’d kinda brush my concerns off to the side and then try to get on my good side.


He’s probably town.

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:53 PM (post #201)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:44 AM (post #200)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:36 PM (post #198)
I don’t think those people are as busy as I am, and I’d be shocked if they’ve been like this in recent games. Are you or Wylted running a pizzeria rn?
You are right. No one else has a real life and things going on except for you. The world revolves around you. So anyone else who you feel isn’t pushing the game forward in a direction majorly isn’t exempt like you are. Great argument lol
Well, you Wylted and Whiteflame can tell me if they have something going on. But when you’re here it’s just meh. You kinda jumped on Magoroth and Shining and that’s about it.
I find it annoying when people constantly are making excuses for real life in a game they signed up for, so no I won’t be doing that. If I’m busy I won’t post and if I’m pressured for it I’ll explain that as a reason, but pre-emptively making excuses is weak and scum motivated IMO. That’s also not what my point was. My point is you are casting shade on others while being inactive yourself, and frankly idgaf what you got going on irl, that’s hypocritical regardless. With mago I got annoyed because he mindlessly tunnels every game I play with him all the way back to Rex’s Asian Ho game, ruyi zhuan then just does the same thing over and over again. It never amounts to anything and wastes a lot of time, pisses people off, and establishes nothing.

I voted shining to get a claim from him because he is notoriously inactive, we have a claim locked in from him now and I’m good with that. Outside of that and your recent defensiveness to being called out, the game has been pretty stale.

I’ve let people know about my job many times in the discord. And when I’m here, I maximize my value. A did some reaction baiting and I’m helping to put a good pile together. I’m not really confident in any scum read yet but your pushes look opportunistic

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:36 PM (post #198)
I don’t think those people are as busy as I am, and I’d be shocked if they’ve been like this in recent games. Are you or Wylted running a pizzeria rn?
You are right. No one else has a real life and things going on except for you. The world revolves around you. So anyone else who you feel isn’t pushing the game forward in a direction majorly isn’t exempt like you are. Great argument lol

Well, you Wylted and Whiteflame can tell me if they have something going on. But when you’re here it’s just meh. You kinda jumped on Magoroth and Shining and that’s about it.

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:23 PM (post #194)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:07 AM (post #191)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:04 PM (post #190)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:00 AM (post #189)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #187)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 10:40 AM (post #186)
You being very lax and not tunneling or town leading strikes me as odd. We both tend to dick swing as town and that is strange to me that you are just coasting when traditionally you are the person progressing the game 
Wf is doing the thing where hes posting a lot to post. But it seems very active just to be active
Kinda similar for both tbh. I’d add Wylted to this list too.
Bro your entire iso is like a 4 post nothing burger lol. Kind of rich coming from you

i’ve given reads and did a reaction test. What did you do?
Are you trying to claim post 188 is reads lol? Also when is the last time a reaction test has ever worked lol
Not any particular post. Just scattered throughout. And the reaction test got one out of Magoroth and generated discussion

This is literally the most activity you’ve had the entire game. Your posts have been nothing. It’s kinda odd that you casts shade on activity or doing nothing when you’ve done the same is all I’m saying


I don’t think those people are as busy as I am, and I’d be shocked if they’ve been like this in recent games. Are you or Wylted running a pizzeria rn?

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 1:04 PM (post #190)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:00 AM (post #189)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #187)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 10:40 AM (post #186)
You being very lax and not tunneling or town leading strikes me as odd. We both tend to dick swing as town and that is strange to me that you are just coasting when traditionally you are the person progressing the game 
Wf is doing the thing where hes posting a lot to post. But it seems very active just to be active
Kinda similar for both tbh. I’d add Wylted to this list too.
Bro your entire iso is like a 4 post nothing burger lol. Kind of rich coming from you

i’ve given reads and did a reaction test. What did you do?
Are you trying to claim post 188 is reads lol? Also when is the last time a reaction test has ever worked lol

Not any particular post. Just scattered throughout. And the reaction test got one out of Magoroth and generated discussion

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #187)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 10:40 AM (post #186)
You being very lax and not tunneling or town leading strikes me as odd. We both tend to dick swing as town and that is strange to me that you are just coasting when traditionally you are the person progressing the game 
Wf is doing the thing where hes posting a lot to post. But it seems very active just to be active
Kinda similar for both tbh. I’d add Wylted to this list too.
Bro your entire iso is like a 4 post nothing burger lol. Kind of rich coming from you


i’ve given reads and did a reaction test. What did you do?

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/17/2026 at 4:19 PM (post #94)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/17/2026 at 2:16 PM (post #90)
Let’s vote shining. Lock him into a claim early
I can get behind that, just if anything because his usual streaks on inactivity and general unhelpfulness as either affiliation

VTL: Shining

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/17/2026 at 5:38 PM (post #104)
I say we all either just ignore magoroth the rest of the game or policy lynch him. Kind of tired of his shenanigans

I just know I can only catch him mechanically since he is such a wildcard. My gut always tells me he's scum but he is one of those individuals I have to ignore my gut on

VTL: Shining

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/17/2026 at 5:46 PM (post #105)
Im down to lock shining into something as well. Hes got enough votes so letting it sit but is mag normally this spazzy. Like the gameplay is kinda braindead. Not sure if hes even reading what people are typing lol



So Pie, Lunatic, Wylted, Mikal.


Mikal’s most likely town.


This is a good list to look at if we think Shining is town.

Mag1cman
You being very lax and not tunneling or town leading strikes me as odd. We both tend to dick swing as town and that is strange to me that you are just coasting when traditionally you are the person progressing the game 
Wf is doing the thing where hes posting a lot to post. But it seems very active just to be active

Kinda similar for both tbh. I’d add Wylted to this list too.

Mag1cman

Shining is interesting to me. The switch-up on Magoroth was a little strange and the character is pretty minor from what I could research.


But I also think the whole “let’s lock Shining into a claim” thing is one of the easiest things for scum to advocate for.


I second the full claim.

Mag1cman

I didn’t think much of Banana saying “don’t trust flips.” It’s just a response to a tailor that can be real or faked.


Magoroth tunneling on Banana actually hurt the chances of her producing something that isn’t NAI. Magoroth’s case against her is easy for scum Banana to play against.

Mag1cman

lol. UNVOTE


cyall in the morning. I ain’t reading all that rn, although the discussion is bountiful


My vote on Magoroth was literally just reaction bait. Magoroth/Kohai/Insomnia is most likely town for obvious reasons

Mag1cman

I don’t see a reason why Thoth isn’t scum in this endgame btw. Keeping Hyper alive just leads to him questioning why he’s alive. At which point he questions all previous reads he has.

Mag1cman

I mulled Whiteflame over. I just don’t have any concrete proof.


assume Casey/mag1c:


people are saying I’m a strong pairing with Casey if Casey flips scum after the NP.


at least one person (Thoth) was saying Hyper or Whiteflame could be paired with me if I flipped scum.


Casey/Mag1c’s play would then be to kill Mag1c, keep Thoth, Casey, and Whiteflame/Hyper alive for f3.


Instead we have Mag1c, Thoth, Whiteflame. After a Casey scum flip.


If I’m scum I just threw myself into an endgame designed to screw me. I’m town. Think on the incentives, please.

Mag1cman


Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/8/2026 at 10:36 AM (post #187)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/8/2026 at 10:24 AM (post #183)
I'd say both have small points in their favor and against, though if I had to pick now, Mag1c does seem like a more likely pairing with Casey than Thoth. That in part comes down to Thoth having more to say about Casey last DP, but it's also down to what we know from the two town-confirmed players who have been eliminated.
Casey really didn’t say much last DP. All I noticed was the friendliness in trying to greet people, which kinda looking like trying to get townread based on vibes to me.

I mean, I agree there wasn't much to say about Casey, I'm not arguing that you should've written a ton. And I recognize that you've been absent, so you just generally would have less to say, not that Thoth said a lot. That doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the limited thoughts on Casey, it just means I'm hesitant to put much weight on them. It's why I still haven't voted.

Which is why if you have a lot to say about Casey, chances are it’s distancing