I gotta leave for work.
If you need one reason to believe in me being town, the best I can give you is that I would have killed myself off as scum bc of ts. I basically live at that pizzeria I’m running and I shouldn’t have joined ts.
I still haven’t fully erased the possibility of Whiteflame putting Thoth and I against each other from my head. But I don’t have any proof for it. I’ll make the call then I arrive at work.
like, what else to you want me to say about Casey?
I'd say both have small points in their favor and against, though if I had to pick now, Mag1c does seem like a more likely pairing with Casey than Thoth. That in part comes down to Thoth having more to say about Casey last DP, but it's also down to what we know from the two town-confirmed players who have been eliminated.
Casey really didn’t say much last DP. All I noticed was the friendliness in trying to greet people, which kinda looking like trying to get townread based on vibes to me.
So Hyper had Casey an I still paired off the idea that we were distancing, if that’s the case #44 can be as well. I don’t know why he ever called that an unpairing.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/5/2026 at 5:04 PM (post #88)
I know y'all are wondering why I have been posting so little. I didn't realize that y'all were going to take this game remotely seriously. I thought we would just turbolynch each other at random so Kohai could test the host dashboard.
I don’t buy this at all. You posted end of page 1, where others’ posting clearly indicated they were taking the game seriously
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/5/2026 at 6:31 PM (post #124)
#72 is scummy from Mag1c in my book. He knows that I am a mislynch magnet, as per this post, and I bet he is banking on awesome and Hyper not fully realizing that
you say this like I can’t just organically scumread you. This is just looks like omgus with an excuse
Like when he came back and posted that should’ve waved every green town flag
Awesome was far too erratic last DP to be scum. I’m shocked he got lynched tbh.
Eh. I’ll do it in the morning before I go to work.
I get off work at 10. I can chime in more then.
current opinion is that i still lean toward my reads list from yesterday. I’m going to consider Whiteflame being scum but I feel like I nailed it DP1.
I don’t see Thoth-Casey unpaired at all
Hyper
Whiteflame
Awesome
Casey
Thoth
Thats my town ranking
WF - I was bothered by his complaints about the setup from earlier but looking beyond that he’s got some towny posts in his favor. Withholding the thought process on quickhammers and his reads list are of note to me.
Thoth- Similar entrance to Whiteflame but regurgitated and that’s about it. Looks worse when you’re the second person saying it, and the lack of anything else is kinda bad. If he’s busy that’s one thing, but why not say something more when you do have the time?
Casey- Somewhat leaning scum off a meta read- iirc Casey is nicer to people when scum, and more combative as town.
Awesome- Don’t really have an opinion yet.
Hyper- Towny by how they post. It’s not just the high effort, it’s that the specific angles taken and questions asked show a real thought process that I can see, that feels genuine.
Honestly I feel like I’m on a similar wavelength to Whiteflame on his reads.
I’d rather lynch Thoth.
Thoth - Starting with the "why did no one ping me?" post leaves me a little mixed. It's likely scum got pinged about the game starting, but no one else did. Just seems a little weird to call it out when all of us can see it. Aside from that, he's mainly just been frustrated that he has to evaluate other players behaviorally, which I somewhat get, but we all signed up for this game knowing that the setups would demand more on that front. I don't really get why he'd complain about it. I get that this DP is filler, but I don't like how much of his posting is just being frustrated, and yes I say that as someone who complained about the setup from the start, so I recognize it's a little hypocritical. Mainly wondering if some of this has been more performative.
Honestly a really good point.
Hyper - Just a lot of really good game analysis and incisive thoughts about behavior so far. I appreciate how Hyper is digging into our behaviors, and while I've seen players use this kind of thing to control the direction of the DP, there's also a lot of questions about how we perceive certain choices and a genuine effort to understand player behaviors as we've experienced them before. The attempt to figure out plausible pairings also comes off as a good way to look at how we're all bouncing off of each other. Can't see eliminating them this DP.
Agreed. I’m not familiar with this guy, but his process feels intuitively towny.
Casey_Risk - Not a whole lot to read into so far. Casey's been focused on my response to awesome's vote, which I'll admit likely comes off a bit odd considering I didn't realize it was an RVS for a bit. Mentioning that Thoth was slow to contribute to the thread after his initial post is fair enough, though I can't say I'm sussing the delayed contribution. I like the engagement so far, but I can't say I can read a lot into a few responses in a short period of time, so I'm waiting to see more interaction from them.
I have a theory that Casey is nicer to others when scum that I’m thinking about but I don’t really have time to check it. Thoughts?
Mag1cman - One post saying that he wouldn't be available for a while and, so far, nothing additional. Basically inactive, nothing to read into.
Hi.
awesome5000 - I've already given my basic thoughts on awesome, though I'll summarize. The random test vote, which I am realizing was almost certainly just RVS (really did think it was just testing the voting system, that's just me being dumb) doesn't say much by itself, nor does the follow-up. I still think it's a little defensive to just blurt out a reason for the vote unprompted, rather than a reason for keeping it up or some insight into what he's learned from the RVS, but there's just not a lot to read into with these posts so far and if there is a plan of action here, it's not popping out to me.
I have a couple ideas but I want to see his responses.
Similar to Hyper, while I'm not fond of just defaulting to our inactive player, Mag1c would be my first choice at this point. I'm debating between Thoth and awesome past that point, want to see more from both before I try to pick between them.
Gun pressed to your head: Who do you lynch and why?
Originally Posted by Hyper on 8/4/2026 at 10:29 PM (post #55)
Whiteflame/Thoth
Whiteflame/Awesome5000
Whiteflame/Mag1cman
Whiteflame/Casey
Thoth/Awesome5000
Thoth/Mag1cman(slight)
Thoth/Casey
Awesome5000/Mag1cman
Awesome5000/Casey
Mag1cman/Casey
List of possible pairings, strikethroughs represent ones I surmise are less likely .I'm kind of operating off the assumption that scum are more likely to try and get townread early on rather than go for immediate distancing by the nature of this setup, which discourages bussing when scum lose the Night 1 kill.
I'd like to unpair whiteflame/Casey but would need to see a bit more there.
Yeah Hyper seems town.
What’s the idea behind a Whiteflame-Casey pairing?
Originally Posted by Hyper on 8/4/2026 at 10:17 PM (post #53)
As for Casey (and to #41, thanks for the welcome), posts #43 into #45 seems decent, it's indicative of some natural development of reasoning (i.e., finding whiteflame's initial post offputting then questioning the justification). I don't necessarily agree with it—personally, I find whiteflame's reaction to be more likely the result of being unused to vanilla-style setups with little to work with in the beginning—but it feels like Casey's at least trying to latch on to something rather than fly under the radar.
I do want to ask regarding #44, though, which seems to carry some skepticism of Thoth. What distinguishes their entrance from awesome500's in your view, considering that both made a single post then left?
First post from Hyper that I feel is objectively towny. Very good question to ask for the purpose of reading someone.
Originally Posted by Casey_Risk on 8/4/2026 at 5:43 PM (post #44)
Originally Posted by Hyper on 8/4/2026 at 12:01 AM (post #19)
VTL: Mag1cman
Thoth's entrance was okay, I suppose.
The entrance is whatever imo, but I'd like to know why he waited to contribute anything to the thread
I wouldn’t say Thoth contributed nothing. No reads but some setup complaints. The setup complaints do feel regurgitated.
So here’s a thought: Does scum regurgitate off a teammate? Probably not. I think scum would want to avoid having the exact same behaviors as a teammate to avoid looking paired. If scum Thoth is regurgitating, he more likely would have borrowed it from someone he knows is town.
So one of our two players complaining about the setup is town most likely. I think this is an unpairing of Thoth-Whiteflame.
Originally Posted by awesome5000 on 8/4/2026 at 10:25 AM (post #32)
I decided to vote the GLOBAL MODERATOR so it wasn’t completely random lmao
(also you can check the database on MU for my games, I don’t feel like linking it because I got temp banned from that site)
So, what do you think of Whiteflame’s reaction to it?
Someone needs to explain to me how and why this setup behooves any strategy other than rolling the dice and praying to RNGesus.
Just read people.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/4/2026 at 4:52 AM (post #23)
I don't see the point of skipping night 1 if a Mafioso is lynched today. Seems to me like that would make the game too swingy, and that, if anything, night 1 should be skipped if a townie is lynched.
Don’t like this for the same reason I don’t like it from Whiteflame.
for Whiteflame*
In the event of a quickhammer, I've got some thoughts on how I would direct my focus. Revealing that thought process would give scum more insight than I'd prefer to provide at this juncture.
First town points of the game of Whiteflame here
Originally Posted by Hyper on 8/3/2026 at 11:59 PM (post #18)
I'm somewhat inclined to just take #13 and #14 as towny at face value; the transition from a direct question to Awesome5000, to an "agree-to-disagree" type post to me, is indicative of already having some level of internalized reads. There is the alternative explanation that Awesome5000/whiteflame are soft distancing as S/S, but that feels less likely off whiteflame's lack of attempt to push me on my townread on the former.
To me 13-14 just looks an attempt to draw suspicion onto someone without directly accusing them.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/3/2026 at 11:07 PM (post #10)
Honestly, forgot this was happening today and didn't get a ping, glad I suddenly remembered before I called it a night.
Small but interesting group in this one. Odd way to balance the game regardless of that first lynch. If scum get lynched first, we skip the NP, so... scum lose out on an NK? I don't get that, seems to just dig their hole deeper since there are no other night actions. The other caveat makes a little more sense at least, otherwise the game could just end NP1 with scum reaching parity on their first NK.
I don’t care for this post. People tend to complain about things that are obstacles to them, and scum is easily more likely to complain about setup choices that are difficult for them to deal with.
Originally Posted by Hyper on 8/3/2026 at 8:44 PM (post #7)
Nice to meet you all. This is my first game in a few years, but I'm decently experienced. A few things to note about the setup:
Scum are heavily incentivized to quickhammer, since they can kill the scum player that made the hammer as well as the town player that wasn't voting for the elimination. As such, be cautious of putting someone at E - 1.
Assuming no bussing, every town player needs to agree on a scum suspect to secure an successful elimination.
Town's greatest problem during Day 1 is probably the time limit. Keeping #2 in mind, even a single town player hesitating for too long can be enough to sink an otherwise successful elimination. While activity is always important, the town-scum ratios here make it especially crucial.
Reasonable post.
Were you anyone on DDO or DART?
I forgot about this game entirely.
I won’t be available until much later tonight. Posting from work rn, I get off at or a little past 9
Poking around from the outside, it seemed like an interesting game. wp town, you weren’t scared of the game 7 lights
/in
but don’t expect me to do much
/out
