Mag1cman

As far as the Magoroth wagons go, the only two townreads I would give off it are Pie and Lunatic.

I don't think scum Pie suggest his own teammate there. I also don't think scum Lunatic is so quick to go along with it either. Busses are possible but odds feel pretty dang low.

Rex only jumped on it once he saw Pie suggest it and Lunatic make the vote, and Thoth did it out of self-preservation. I will still be analyzing both a lot today.

I think fakeclaiming vanilla or a given fake claim is possible, so I no longer think Thoth being the only vanilla skyrockets his odds of being town anymore. But it does help if we firmly believe in the trends from Whiteflame's past games (except for vanilla not having a justification at all this time, that's still weird).

From a behavioral standpoint I still think Rex is worse.

POE: Rex, Thoth, Wylted, Banana

ILikePie5 wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

I am Stark. I am the bruiser. The role is sometimes called other things but when targeted with a lethal action in the night, I survive a little longer. Justification is that Stark is very resilient, taking a lot of hits in battle. I spent pretty much all of DP1 trying to hint at being PR to draw the NK. First I was trying to be subtle as to not make the bait obvious, but as Mikal kept bugging me about claiming I had to be more on the nose, waving that "I'm a PR guys come get me!" flag.

so you’re a bleeder?

yeah

I die at the end of the following night phase. I was not targeted with anything like that last night. Hopefully I ate a roleblock or something.

I am Stark. I am the bruiser. The role is sometimes called other things but when targeted with a lethal action in the night, I survive a little longer. Justification is that Stark is very resilient, taking a lot of hits in battle. I spent pretty much all of DP1 trying to hint at being PR to draw the NK. First I was trying to be subtle as to not make the bait obvious, but as Mikal kept bugging me about claiming I had to be more on the nose, waving that "I'm a PR guys come get me!" flag.

eh. works for me

In particular, Pie’s flip should be helpful in reading Lunatic

By your reads, and the people who sussed you.

Mikal wrote:

Wanted one of you to claim so we had a better poe.

But is what it is.

I do think given thoths response he he is town

If no one else claims vanilla then the odds of him being town skyrocket in my book. Whiteflame’s last game had only one vanilla.

its not the end of the world not voting Thoth since we have other ways of figuring him out

Im more upset Rex survived this DP. But Pie’s flip will give good info.

A million thank yous for not choosing me at least

Dead ass i wasn’t even voting Thoth on him being outright scum, it was info + still a chance at least he’s scum and Rex is bussing

Mikal wrote:

I yeeted pie. Doesn't matter. One or you is scum and you ping me better

Again, if someone is opportunistic it’s more likely to be Rex. It’s painfully obvious at this point.

The one guy I would’ve lynched over Thoth and you wouldn’t pay attention to a thing about him.

I guess we’ll see what happens with Pie’s flip. I very much think Rex is far more likely, and far scummier than Thoth. But yall wouldn’t let me go there. So I had to go for Thoth.

Rex even jumped on the Mago CFD

Ok so we have a Pie lynch.

Mikal wrote:

There is no way wf gives vanilla as a fake claim

Ok, why? I’ve done it in my past two games. If there’s even one actual vanilla, you can make it work.

Let’s see here. You’re not vanilla. Rex checked in, Pie, Lunatic, Banana, all showed up and no one backed Thoth’s PM lack of justification up. Neither did Wylted.

If Mago shows up and doesn’t claim vanilla then Thoth is only vanilla, therefore can’t be fake fake claim

ILikePie5 wrote:

Thoth wrote:

#336: Someone tell me how being defensive is a scumtell. If you know you are town and people want to lynch you, why not defend yourself?

They didn’t want to lynch. It was RVS. Like it was obvious Mikal was trolling that early on.

True, but I can understand the need to refute a case regardless. Keep in mind Thoth didn’t realize what I was doing was RVS, which I how I got a response out of him.

Thoth wrote:

#336: Someone tell me how being defensive is a scumtell. If you know you are town and people want to lynch you, why not defend yourself?

This is a reasonable point

Mikal wrote:

Sigh

I dont think thoth is scum. Hes literally not reading snd ignorant of what wf confirmed.

Think this wojld be to hard to feign

I don’t see anything in that post that indicates he didn’t know the claims were separate. If the claims are separate, than vanilla is still a given fake claim. At which point his argument is going to be that vanilla wouldn’t be a fake claim. It’s exactly what you’d expect.

If vanilla truly isn’t something that Whiteflame would give as a fake claim, than yeah he’s town. But I don’t know about that.

I will grant that Thoth’s most recent posts do feel honest. The thing is, I’m not CFDing to Magoroth. It’s Rex or Thoth for me.

ive done it multiple times. Gives scum a way to blend in with the vanillas.

Given that you’ve hinted that you have the ability to kill someone, I will tell you what I thought I saw.

because you trusted Thoth’s justification (lack of), I thought that indicated you were a vanilla and your previous PR hints were bluffs to draw the NK. Which was what I was thinking when I made that post about “if I’m reading between the lines correctly”

i misread the vote count

Ok

If you’re a vigilante and you shoot me ur retarded

Fair enoguh

Wait how much time is left in the DP? Based on post start I thought it was gonna end at 1. It’s 1:09

Maybe maybe not. We’ll see. Depends on what happens

We can discuss this tmrw

No. I’m not claiming.

Read between the fucking lines dude

*to lynch Thoth here

I’d place your vote on Thoth so we don’t Rand here.

I don’t trust a Magoroth CFD. If a Rex CFD is off the table, the only option is to lynch Magoroth here