ILikePie5 wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
Get ready for some…PIE
Little bit too defensive this early on Thoth. Luna thinks he’s Goku when he’s more like Piccolo. Mikal hasn’t been mod killed. Mharman feels meh. REF is a misogynist. I love mafia
Lol bro is extra gleeful today. Did the girlfriend become the fiancée or something?
Nah, I’m just happy I fooled my boss with something lol
Scum Pie would not be this happy entering a mafia game, unless there was something irl making him happy. So no town points there.
Don't get me wrong, I would've been happy for you to hear if you had some amazing news in your life, but the point of that question was to investigate this. If you had said "nothing IRL I just feel happy for some reason" I would assume you're town bc scum Pie doesn't like being scum.
You remain somewhere in between NAI to slight town for the pressure on Thoth, assuming Thoth is scum.
ILikePie5 wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
Mikal wrote:
Just got back from hanging out with family but doesn't look like i missed to much
Initial gut check is there is prob 1 scum between rex and Anna
I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging
I also disliked the initial pressure from rex on to her. Dont think they could be paired as scum
Maybe. I think some of the questions are just of lesser quality. And Pie at least gave his reads when he popped in to ask questions. It is a little scummy. Doesn’t feel like the worst thing in the world, but I see what you mean.
i do wonder if the timing of her entrance has anything to do with me saying we should get a claim from one of the inactives. Eh. Tbh this is also the moment when I would’ve expected her to enter the thread as either affiliation.
I think women are just more socially aware in general. We’re just bozos. I think there’s a decent argument that Mikal is making, but it’s rather NAI here. As scum she didn’t “look back” in solo leveling. Just posted her reads. And the previous game as town, idt she looked back either and she was town
Tbh I'm starting to town read her a little
ILikePie5 wrote:
Man I am get Game Show Mafia vibes here
As in?
If you think I’m distancing/bussing Thoth, then by all means, let me do so lol
Mikal wrote:
Asking wf if I can share the angleshoot reasons.
But right now
Potentially thoth luna
Or thoth magic
I think there is an active scum posting between the people online.
So that's luna magic or Anna
I chose Thoth for the RVS specifically for the reason that he slips frequently as scum. As him teammate I am not RVSing him there, I would be telling him to keep his mouth shut early on rather than pressuring him. Instead I tested him, and immediately found something scummy.
Yes giving the reason for Himmel maybe being vanilla was a misplay on my part, but it was my honest analysis of his claim. Keep in mind that I still doubt the claim because of the lack of justification. I can understand your reasoning on me here, but it omits the bigger picture.
Also, if I coached Thoth’s claim, he is not going to give it without a justification. I am going to have one ready for him and I am going to make sure he gives it in his full claim.
#148- That plan to let Thoth justify Himmel being vanilla himself was very towny
I dislike you typing this. I was trying to avoid saying it because it gives him an out on how to claim vanilla. Its why I kept saying there is a world where wf designed himmel as vanilla. Spelling it out for him Instead of letting him say his justification first irks me
Didnt think of that idea, also didn’t notice you were doing that. my bad gang
And Thoth?
What do you think of Banana?
Mikal’s more recent posts seems like a townier approach to me, has me feeling a little better about him
So I took a quick look at Himmel the Hero on the fandom wiki page. He died in Episode 1, but there’s many flashbacks of him in almost all the episodes after. It seems the most notable thing about him is not some power or trait he has, but how he impacts the actions of the main living cast, especially Frieren.
So there’s a case to be made for him(mel) being PR and a case to be made for him being vanilla.
The lack of a justification from Thoth is pretty bad, given that Whiteflame did not give a justification for the fake claim.
In addendum, being vanilla doesn’t really match up with such an early soft. Normally, a townie who is a strong PR does that, trying to avoid a full claim.
The soft did feel a bit hasty as well, so this feels like mafia softing to buy time to find a claim, more than a townie who wants to hide his cards from the mafia team.
My vote stays; I want to hear Thoth’s defense of his actions.
I’ll look at The Pitt Mafia in a bit, but can you tell me what happened in that game?
Banana wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
So Banana has an OMGUS of Mikal; she doesn’t think his reasons are good.
Not really a fan of it but she did push Pie for the same reason last game.
i dont think its omgus, im not voting him simply for suspecting me, im voting him because he was harpin on me for "posting just to post" which is what he is doin. his posts were kind of trolly or non impactful ya know. so if he values engagement why wasn't he engaging himself? but his recent posts do seem more insightful so maybe ill pull back from him, just want to see where he goes with the thoth thing first
Sure.
So Banana has an OMGUS of Mikal; she doesn’t think his reasons are good.
Not really a fan of it but she did push Pie for the same reason last game.
Looking at Banana’s entrance with fresh eyes, it feels similar to Magoroth’s entrance. If we think there’s scum outside of Magoroth/Banana, then one of them is town and just not asking good questions. At which point both can be. Not saying they’re townlocked but I am saying I don’t feel the scum case on either is strong, based on the entrances.
I haven’t read Banana’s latest posts yet.
I can see a Rex-Banana world. But believing it is another thing. I still find Thoth to be scummiest.
Rex is honestly the person I would pursue after Thoth. He’s clearly hanging out in the thread but has nothing to say other than some jokes and some memes
Mikal wrote:
Just got back from hanging out with family but doesn't look like i missed to much
Initial gut check is there is prob 1 scum between rex and Anna
I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging
I also disliked the initial pressure from rex on to her. Dont think they could be paired as scum
Maybe. I think some of the questions are just of lesser quality. And Pie at least gave his reads when he popped in to ask questions. It is a little scummy. Doesn’t feel like the worst thing in the world, but I see what you mean.
i do wonder if the timing of her entrance has anything to do with me saying we should get a claim from one of the inactives. Eh. Tbh this is also the moment when I would’ve expected her to enter the thread as either affiliation.
RexFavilla wrote:
Banana wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
VTL Banana
Come on Pie, we tricked her into joining lets do this.
no. bad.
are u town?
Amazing.
Like if you’re gonna distance your partner DP1, you’d want to do it later in the DP after you’re sure your distancing isn’t gonna lead to significant pressure on them
Banana wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
Last sentence probably pairs scum Lunatic with someone outside of Pie, Mikal, and I (Banana, Wylted, Magoroth, Rex, Thoth). Of those names, Thoth sticks out the most for obvious reasons.
Consequently, this unpairs scum Lunatic with Pie and Mikal. 80% confidence
if anyones gonna bus its gonna be him tho
Maybe. That’s why it’s not 99%. But this reads like a quote to keep town away from a whole section of players. In a scum Lunatic world, that’s most likely what it is. I think putting attention on your teammate early is a bad idea in a 7v2.
Banana wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
Do you still have those same thoughts/gut feels/whatever on Mikal? Why or why not?
It was kind of RVS but he was not taking the bait. That said I think it’s unlikely Thoth is scum three times in a row. But pretty sure I’ve said the same thing about Whiteflame and been wrong in the past. That said there is a world where Mikal’s Thoth push is not just an opportunistic thing and something he genuinely thinks will go somewhere useful. It’s early game though so we will see. With 9 players and having so many strong players in this one I’d rather focus people like pie and Mikal and yourself early on though
what is rvs again
Random vote start, random vote selection, random vote something else idr
Bascially just reaction baiting someone with a random vote
Banana wrote:
Mikal wrote:
Its just easy to bully you into slipping. 3 games running you have been a dp1 scum lynch for saying weird shit. Pressure on you is never bad because the more you talk the more you slip.
So you are either quiet and its prob a scum tell
Or you talk a lot and if you are scum, you inevitably will throw
so hes just scum either way?
No. If he falls silent he’s scum, if keeps talking he is either town or scum. If slips, he’s scum, if not, he’s town. That’s what Mikal’s saying.
After we get a claim from Thoth, we should also get a claim from one of the inactive 4 I mentioned.
Last sentence probably pairs scum Lunatic with someone outside of Pie, Mikal, and I (Banana, Wylted, Magoroth, Rex, Thoth). Of those names, Thoth sticks out the most for obvious reasons.
Consequently, this unpairs scum Lunatic with Pie and Mikal. 80% confidence.
Get ready for some…PIE
Little bit too defensive this early on Thoth. Luna thinks he’s Goku when he’s more like Piccolo. Mikal hasn’t been mod killed. Mharman feels meh. REF is a misogynist. I love mafia
Lol bro is extra gleeful today. Did the girlfriend become the fiancée or something?
So the conclusion of that is that Rex and Magoroth look the worst among the inactives, followed by Banana, and then Wylted. None are explicitly towny or scummy, just a matter of probability.
NOTE: The problem with the theories is that there's obviously missing data- four players who haven't posted much of anything.
And that's another question to ask: Is this a game where scum is lurking? It absolutely can be. If so, the theories are completely wrong.
So let's ask who would be inactive as scum.
Banana: Absolutely would hide at the start as scum, as I don't think scum Banana would be confident given the last scum game of hers. The issue is that Banana tends to be low-activity anyway, though she has increased her activity recently.
Wylted: Not really. I think scum Wylted would be more afraid of lurking as scum, simply because it could be called out. In a low-activity game, I expect scum Wylted to avoid being one of the reasons for said inactivity. The issue is that Wylted was replaced out the last game, so he might be busy with something.
Magoroth: Possible, but I haven't played enough games with Magoroth to have a guess.
Rex: I've seen him low-activity as both factions, but I do think he's the type of person who would hide among the inactives if he's scum in a low-activity game.
Worth noting that Magoroth and Rex both have multiple instances of being in the thread, but not having anything to say at all, not even the slightest blurb.
Main theory: Thoth+Lunatic, can also see Thoth+Mikal.
VTL: Thoth
for claim
Softing's not gonna be enough in a game where mafia can either get a fake claim, or can ask about various characters.
