Mestari

Sorry for not consolidating posts, but I'm on mobile.

My position here is that if we get the town on board with sheeping you or Lunatic scums advantage is removed. They must pick between one of your choices and can not drive their own train. Also means they are forced onto one of two trains which can be looked at post flip.

I really, really don't like the push coming out of Helz here. We're asking to partially shift responsibility for deciding lynches to confirmed town, which inherently limits our ability to analyze those lynches. Follow the cop only works in small games where random coppings can be enough to get a win.

Kohai has a vote on him already but Mestari also likes wryly, you seem to also and pie probably would come along so I guess we could start a counter wagon there, and I do feel as if Thoth is probably town though it's not a strong enough feeling for me to allow a no lynch if I am there to hammer

Huh? I don't even like the vague concept of "people"

So this game has a huge advantage for D1 in a single respect. That there is two confirmed town.

What if we get the entire player base on board with sheeping whatever vote one of the two of you decide? This would undercut any Mafia counter train from existing and as a strategy (right or wrong) would place the lynch in the hands of a town.

Do you to feel this is a good idea? Can we pressure players to follow through with this?

I'm not putting the outcome of the game in the hands of 2 players who are putting their own interests ahead of town.

So independent of me finishing myself off and all that as I try to look good for the town, you are one of my 3 hard town pegs. Who do you feel I should be looking at?

The guy who can redirect recruits to mafia teammates in order to activate abilities and who is tell you who is in a guild if and only if a mafia teammate is in the guild already.

I said earlier that one of my abilities is potentially kinda-sorta-confirmable, or, if it isn't now, then it could be depending on how things play out. Let's say that I claimed information about your guild that I couldn't have known unless I knew it from an ability or shared scum chat with your recruit. If I did, do you trust your recruits enough that you would see this as confirming me, or would you suspect a mole? Just a yes/no question.

Kill the fucking rat

Mate I care about him not outing, but y'all are clearly more worried about stroking yourselves in each other's faces than beating mafia.

I have to wake up in 5 hours for a 15-16 hour shift. I might have some small periods to post tomorrow, but if the DP gets spammed to the point that I can't catch up on the allotted time then I'm going to close the thread and watch porn instead, and I'll post on Saturday. Good luck in the meantime peoples

The stalling of the Thoth wagon becomes odd if he's town, unless mafia is among the inactives. I think the slightly active players have had enough chance to join the wagon by now.

There's a certain subset of players from which at least one is mafia, because of the way Mikal designed the game. Lunatic is town, Wylted is town, and I'm town. That leaves Alyssa, Max, and maybe Supa or Skep (is skep in this game?), but it's less likely the last 2 are in that pile.

Wagonomics and knowing that the mod didn't randomize roles and alignment assignments.

If Thoth is town, Airmax is scum btw.

Reciting theory is extremely AI if people aren't doing it, there's no reason to expect that they will start doing it by themselves, and not following that theory is hurting town. So I consider Helz almost townlock for reciting theory that will probably help us and being insistent about it. The only way I can see him doing that as scum out of frustration that we were not giving him enough of a challenge.

If only you knew the amount of games I won telling people how to more effectively play the game. There's a gap between where they are at and where they want to be, and that gap is easy to exploit.

That only applied on night 0

Can we kill the thing already?

+10000

Helz jumped to the top of my town list.

Reciting theory is NAI. What's AI is the way you spin the narrative on those positions that are taken.

Exactly. Why would we wanna tell scum exactly who has activated abilities. Makes zero sense

Because there's more value to activating as many abilities as possible than hiding who has them. As we recruit more it becomes near certainly that mafia is in both guilds. Trying to hide recruits from the mafia assumes we only ever recruit town and risks both guilds recruiting the same player, activating less roles.

Can we just lunch someone and move on with our lives? I'm down for Thoth, Max, Alyssa, Pie, or Banana

I agree that it's weird for a character to exist as town completely outside of the guild mechanics. I also don't see a connection between the character and the ability to redirect recruits.

I will say one more thing on this. Yes my writing style may be contrived. For some TMI I have done years of speech therapy and while just speaking and connecting with people may be something natural for you its something I had to work hard to get where I am. Its not a choice on my part. It is who I am. It causes me problems but its not something I can change. I would appreciate it if you left how I speak alone even if it bothers you.

That is awesome. That's such an incredibly difficult obstacle to overcome. You are wildly impressive for accomplishing ever you have.

You've not seen be in a game with FT. I've not even properly insulted anyone!

He liked to boast that he was the only player who could catch me when I was scum. He likes to remind people that he has a 100% accuracy catching me when I'm scum, even. What he always left out was that he also scum read me 100% of the time I was town. An absolute twat, that one.

For the record, I feel I have been quite civilized this game. Also I don't really care if Thoth claims. I'd be down to lynch with no claim.

Thoth has already said he gathered his belief that I'm a fearkill target from a pre game misunderstanding. Whether that's bullshit or not is up to each person to decide, but he's not going to come back at this point and say the mod told him I'm a good person to kill at night. That's not something that happened.

I just don't claim DP1. It's not something I do. And when I do, 100% of the time I fake claim, even as town.

Legit after about 370-380 just skip ahead to Helz's big posts and then to here. Almost everything else in the last 100 posts is spam.

I'm in particular waiting for activity from Max, Skep, Shining, Supa, and a bit more from Magic

One last point, any non open setup presents structural problems when rerollong and this particular setup cannot be rerolled at all, so there's little point into trying to use my joke, when I explained was a reference to one of my past events of canon on DDO, to town confirm me. I don't like being town confirmed. Buzz off.

I'm so glad that in waking up to 90 new posts there was only 1 post of substance. Thank you, Helz, for ensuring that my catching up wasn't a complete waste.

How about we wait to get input from inactives and then lynch Thoth or Alyssa? I prefer Thoth because I want to play with Alyssa longer. Airmax is also possibly scum.

Mestari is a subject of focus. Im kinda pissed off about why tbh. I talked about this at length in my wolf chat as I spoke about my desire to eat your children and elderly but effectively nobody is stupid enough to OOG leak “What is a godfather” and a host not reroll. They are semi host confirmed town imo. Not happy about it but I will run with that advantage.

If you think Mikal would reroll the game because I leaked that I was godfather you are sadly mistaking. He would laugh at me in a pm and enthusiastically prepare popcorn. I'm not mod confirmed at all.

"Claimed" is wild

Rick

What happened in transformers mafia?

I wasn't talking to you.

Wryly

I take it the suspicion here is that Thoth learned this about Mes from scumchat

Yes sir.

VTL Thoth

Unvote. Lots of people with more familiarity than I with Pie says it's not AI, so it's not AI.

I ask who Thoth is because, if he hasn't played with me, why does he know at the time of the post about me vs pie that I'm a fearkill target?