RexFavilla

I targeted Luna during the NP. I thought, as a result, that I had drawn off roles that were used against Luna. Based on your Tracker result, that was incorrect. Instead, my target was somehow changed to Shining.

Since Mikal used his Magnet on Luna and directed him to me, if we're buying Luna's claim, he would have hid behind me with his Compulsive Hider despite targeting you.

So Pie just confirmed to me that Mikal's hypothetical magnet role would process BEFORE Whiteflame's lightning rod, and that a vanillaizer would process after both. Asking about other roles and trying to map this out right now.

Also how, specifically, does your lightning rod work? Can you both explain your roles in a clear, simple way?

RexFavilla wrote:

What the hell does your role actually do? Break it down for me like I'm retarded please.

Could you please answer this? Trying to find out what happened in the NP.

Helz wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

The fact that everyone wants to lynch Bullish makes me think he's town lol.

Being another invest- do you have any issue with 2 other invests existing? If you had to pick a number like a % how likely do you feel it is for 3 Invests to be in the game and between Casey and Bullish which do you feel would be the fake one if there is too many?

I dont think there's too many. If anything, there are too few, with multiple manipulative roles and a strengthener.

The fact that everyone wants to lynch Bullish makes me think he's town lol.

What the hell does your role actually do? Break it down for me like I'm retarded please.

Casey_Risk wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Is there guaranteed to only be ONE scum in your results or could there be multiple?

Guaranteed at least one, possibly more than one. Obviously it's highly unlikely that I happened to get three scum in my dream, but two is a possibility. Right now, I'm leaning towards either Luna or Bullish, slight possibility of both

Eh that sucks, if it were only one we would have better odds lynching outside your poe if you were town and we lynched you today.

Is there guaranteed to only be ONE scum in your results or could there be multiple?

Magoroth being the town strengthener confirms that there are a bunch of anti-town redirecting roles from a balance perspective.

Going to claim as I'm going out and won't have access to Discord. I am Technetium. I'm used in medical settings to trace physiological activity through gamma radiation. Because of this, I am the tracker. Because I have no stable isotopes and am always subject to radioactive decay, I am 2x.

Mikal wrote:

How did you see him going to amyone if he got vanillized though

I see three possibilities.

1. He's lying about one or many things.

2. I was somehow redirected to someone else who I saw visit Shining

3. His night action processed simultaneously with the vannilaization and was somehow misdirected.

White targeted luna and can move all actions to himself. So basically I moved wf to himself.

WF did not visit Luna or himself. He visited Shining.

Did you do anything last night?

If we mislynch three times we lose so dreamer results are a bit iffy to me.

Things im sure of. Wf is very likley town.

Second this. He was actually one of my biggest scum reads last night but I kept it quiet so if he was he would feel comfortable carrying out the NK. Events in the NP now have me thinking he's town.

Magoroth wrote:

Can you explain in what way you having a confirmed or near confirmed Town at, say, MyLo, assuming I lived that long, is worse than getting “information” from lynching said confirmed Town?

It also doesn’t help that this take isn’t really game related. Pretty scummy to talk about tactics and strategy ngl

Town doesn't win by not lynching town. They can not lynch town all game and still lose. They win by lynching scum. They accurately lynch scum by developing accurate reads. They develop accurate reads through results and behavioral analysis - the biggest facet of behavioral analysis is that scum want to lynch town and not lynch scum. So if you lynch, even if the lynch is town, scum will act in a way which is revealing in hindsight. If you puss out and quail away from lynches scum can just hide in endlessly refracting wifom and win the game easily.

Mag1cman wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

No texting and driving! Real friends don’t let friends play mafia and drive

ISOing Lunatic and found this.

I second this.

Very anti-town tbh. Activity is pro-town.

Magoroth wrote:

But yeah Rex saying he’s confident I’m Town and then hammering me anyway at the end of the day is at best horrible play. At worst it’s scummy as fuck. If there are Cops or whatever check Rex tonight, thanks.

I've done this multiple times. I would literally lynch confirmed town if they were the only viable target. No lynching DP1 is retarded, and I will never sanction it. It starves town of information because it creates a norm where scum can noncommittally support wagons and then just let them fizzle out and renders post hoc analysis completely pointless. You NEED to follow through and lynch someone.

At least it will be a juicy flip.

VTL: Magoroth

UNVOTE

Kohai wrote:

Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener?

More powerful because it also protective and blocks investigatives.

A 1x rolestopper seems underpowered too. Would not be surprised if it's one part of a mafia joat the rest of which comprises scum specific roles.

Lunatic wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Did someone claim a rolestopper or am I smoking crack?

At bare minimum I would say that it makes one of helz or mago guaranteed scum. Why put a rolestopping ability on the same team as a strengthener? It's literally the exact reason I lynched kohai when he claimed strengthener. If mago is town I will help you in taking a hard look at helz tomorrow. Alternatively if mago flips scum this looks good for helz.

Yeah my main hangup on the Casey lynch is almost zero info produced on the flip.

Kohai wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Did someone claim a rolestopper or am I smoking crack?

I think Helz?

If roles like that and scum manipulative roles exist a town strengthener does make sense.

Did someone claim a rolestopper or am I smoking crack?

Kohai wrote:

Less than 10 mins left. We can’t afford a no lynch

Its 9 central. Pie labors under the delusion that his provincial time ghetto is somehow relevant to the rest of the world. That's ten AM Real Time.

Kohai wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Kohai wrote:

Since you're here full claim or I'm voting you

We already have too many claims out. Vote me if you want.

If you're an important PR or have something that cna clear yourself then you need to claim

No I don't.

DP1 fullclaims are a ridiculous crutch. Just lynch who you think is scummier.

Kohai wrote:

Since you're here full claim or I'm voting you

We already have too many claims out. Vote me if you want.

UNVOTE

VTL: Casey_Risk