RexFavilla

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/6/2026 at 9:21 PM (post #204)

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/6/2026 at 5:22 PM (post #196)

Lunatic essentially admitted to being a redirector. Mentioned the balance thing after Thoth claimed so immediately soft claimed it essentially when 1x bullet proof would be easier .

I but the theory that this is a role cop thing and he's like "fuck I guess we can't kill lunatic and steal stah claim"

So he does the second best thing

It's a very plausible thing.

It feels like whiteflame is scum every time I play with him though and I have a pang of guilt for sussing him

I did not admit to being redirector. You are reading too much into that, the comment about balance was also made before whiteflame said his result on me.

If you were BP you'd be trying to lynch Magic right now.

Really think we should lynch between Luna and WF

Magic's claim complicates Luna being BP which is the only situation where I see Luna vs WF being T/T

Originally Posted by wylted on 7/6/2026 at 7:22 PM (post #196)

I but the theory that this is a role cop thing and he's like "fuck I guess we can't kill lunatic and steal stah claim"

So he does the second best thing

It's a very plausible

This was my thought. You've git a JOAT. Rolecop is the suckiest ability so you blow it NP1. Get a redirector on a town player. Optimal play is to make up this role caroler thing to create mislynch pressure. Then you can gain town cred by picked a claimed town player that you've pocketed and use your fake role to 'confirm' their role after faking a scum read on them.

Ugh I'm done phoneposting just lost my giant wall post. Long story short I think WF and Luna are in a semi1:1. If Luna is the town BG I dont see scum WF pulling this, hed just keep that info to himself. Luna, if you ARE town redirector I think WF is scum pulling the rolecop gambit. If Luna is scum roleblocker well then WF is town and Luna is scum. Will elaborate further later.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/6/2026 at 10:21 AM (post #156)

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 7/6/2026 at 9:38 AM (post #154)

VTL: whiteflame

I'll bite: care to explain?

Bad vibes.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/6/2026 at 10:26 AM (post #157)

A scum role cop against the stuff already revealed seems very weak

Could be a JOAT

VTL: whiteflame

So three day DPs. I will be pretty busy for the weekend of the fourth, but I should be able to post a lot more on Monday.

Love that Thoth and Mikal both lied about their roles, which made it appear like more of a CC than it was, and then neither clarified. Love when town lies for no good reason and then gets mislynched.

Mikal kill is weird. Maybe he had scum in his scumreads and they were afraid of getting shot? With Thoth flipping town he was a good mislynch target due to the pseudo-CC, as well as vig generally being a good mislynch target.

VTL: Thoth

Damn this shit is almost over.

I'm leaning Thoth. Negative utility role that is basically a CC of Mikal, behavior looks shitty, lots of interactions with other players and wagoning to analyze next DP.

Christopher Langan is a character? Several old DDO members have actually corresponded with him pretty extensively. One older member even got Christopher Langan to say 'I love you' to him in a Discord chat.

A fun addition to the off-topic Jew discourse:

Liking Wryly so far, not liking Thoth. Mikal and Thoth seem to be in some kind of CC as their roles both can't exist - some kind of PGO and an every-night vig in a ten player game? There are definitely scum on my wagon earlier today - inactive towny is a perfect ML target because they are easy to push and because the flip isn't really useful to town.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/3/2026 at 5:54 AM (post #174)

Banana peeling piling on my wagon so enthusiastically after Wryly is odd, but almost TWTBAW. I’d vote there for now if it weren’t a sort of OMGUS.

This seems scummy. Who cares if it's OMGUS? If they seem scummy, that's a good enough reason to vote them. Seems like a scum mentality of being self-conscious about hopping on wagons they know are town and justifying it.

It's late and I don't have time to read this shit, I'll chime in tomorrow. Don't kill me, I'm town!

I think I will just delay the game for a couple weeks as everyone just looks like they want a break from Mafia.

I honestly think the ooo thing is such an edge case it doesn't matter. An unbalanced game has so much more of an effect on the gameplay and sportsmanship than that ever would and we dont regulate that outside of shittalkimg in endgames.

I mean you're talking about bizarre role interactions in a theoretical complex setup where things can get murky and in which nobody asked the mod a clarifying question about a specific bizarre interaction which then happens. So in this extremely obscure and uncommon situation, our Schrodinger's mod might press their finger on the scale. That's a risk I'm willing to take for the added excitement that open ended and custom roles bring when town is in the dark about them.

Tbh I feel like a lot of other sites strip a lot of fun out of their games to autistically min/max fairness.

ILikePie5 wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Thanks Wylted for making the game on-theme and vibing with Wryly and I in your last DP. Thanks Wryly for keeping me sane. Helz you were super frustrating lol, you being confirmed town is the only reason my scum reads were 100% accurate. I would have scumread the hell out of you without that.

If it makes you feel better, I put you at 90% town at the end of NP1, and Mikal wanting to lynch you over Ultra basically outted him, so I had to act to stay alive and get actions off

Yeah your behavioral/logical 180 in the last DP was when I knew 100% there was a recruitment mechanic lol.

Banana wrote:

so why was i told i could replace in and then ghosted…

Affirmative action, already admitted too many Asians

A good note to end this game on

Thanks Wylted for making the game on-theme and vibing with Wryly and I in your last DP. Thanks Wryly for keeping me sane. Helz you were super frustrating lol, you being confirmed town is the only reason my scum reads were 100% accurate. I would have scumread the hell out of you without that.

Wryly wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

Do... do you not want to win with us? No reason you can't.

I don't want to win with you. I'd rather lose with Banana, wylted, and Kohai.

Fuck Thoth I guess.

whiteflame wrote:

So yeah, I'll lay it all out.

I'm the TP. I wasn't lying about what my role did, save one caveat: I'm also the Cult Leader and everyone who accepts my offer is not only protected from the NK on that night, they're recruited to my cult. Currently, that includes everyone in the Mason chat, so Helz, Mikal and Pie. We determined that there's no reason to leave anyone else out of the fun at this point, hence the lack of a NK last night. As long as we VTNL and scum continue to waive the NK, I can recruit each of you over the following 3 nights. That means everyone's in the cult, and only two players have to be before we reach parity for the cultists to win. We win above all other factions, so it would be just the 7 of us taking home the W.

I literally had this crackpot theory in my head last DP, that's why I asked you if you were actually the Mason.

Wryly wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Vote me.

Why?

Tbh it feels like there's a cult or cultafia going on. I just don't know how the game hasn't ended yet. And/or there's some sort of manipulative role at play? Mikal is obviously scum. Was Pie's result manipulated somehow? I don't see how - there's no way I moved. Did they waive the NK because they need to town confirm themselves because after the last few days you'd have to be retarded not to lynch Meow and Mikal off of behavior? Did they insist on lynching Ultra last DP instead of Meow because Meow flipping would confirm me and you and make this play impossible? Has the PM been a cover for somekind of recruitment mechanic? I considered that before but it seems completely busted to have a cult like that at the same time as scum. I don't think we can assume that just lynching you will lead to a rational chain of events. Us lynching Ultra should have resulted in a Meow lynch but here we are.

*headsmack* Why did I forget about the existence of cults. Thought I was going crazy.

I miss two games and relevant shit just falls out my head ig.

I can't think of a role that could manipulate Pie to make us both read as visiting Mikal when we didn't. Pie was probably recruited or original scum.

Waiving the NK is a no-brainer. They need two more mislynches. They can't kill one of us because it would confirm the other and severely limit the POE. Then they can claim that scum was trying to kill Mikal and that he must have been protected to confirm him to WF. Maybe WF is in on it maybe not. But a scum team of you and me killing Mikal would once again be retarded when we should be picking of Pie or WF as the NK in that hypothetical situation as Mikal and Meow would be the prime 'mislynch' target after last DP, not good NK targets.

It's pretty clear that TP can recruit and they've decided to side with scum and win. Why else would Mikal just be making shit up and playing as basically open scum? If that is the case Luna should have just ended the game.

Wryly wrote:

Vote me.

Why?

Tbh it feels like there's a cult or cultafia going on. I just don't know how the game hasn't ended yet. And/or there's some sort of manipulative role at play? Mikal is obviously scum. Was Pie's result manipulated somehow? I don't see how - there's no way I moved. Did they waive the NK because they need to town confirm themselves because after the last few days you'd have to be retarded not to lynch Meow and Mikal off of behavior? Did they insist on lynching Ultra last DP instead of Meow because Meow flipping would confirm me and you and make this play impossible? Has the PM been a cover for somekind of recruitment mechanic? I considered that before but it seems completely busted to have a cult like that at the same time as scum. I don't think we can assume that just lynching you will lead to a rational chain of events. Us lynching Ultra should have resulted in a Meow lynch but here we are.

Flip

VTL: Ultracrepidarian